jehovah's witnesses post 'anti-gay' 'harness your habits' leaflet in north devon.
devon and cornwall police have said a leaflet posted through doors in north devon isn't a crime – despite it advising gay people to "control their urges".the leaflet, entitled "how to harness your habits", was distributed in north devon by jehovah's witnesses and contains an article asking "what does the bible say about homosexuality?
"in it, the religious group states that "rejecting homosexuality" is completely different to "rejecting people of a different skin colour" and says their views are the same as people who "view smoking as harmful and even repugnant".it also compares gay people to animals, but says "unlike animals, they can choose not to act on their impulses".the journal was contacted by a reader, who wishes to remain anonymous, who felt "belittled" by the leaflet.
I dont think the message is for the public.
They have a "problem" in the Org (in their own opinion) and this is how they are trying to address it.
I know several people who are non practicing gay people (is that a socially appropriate term? I am not sure?) In my awareness they are tremendously popular with the "flock" and are cutting edge successful in the old dreaded world career wise also.
Its a small but growing threat from within I think.
does anybody remember some of the sensational demon stories jw's would tell back in the day?
i was a kid in the early 80's and i remember a few times hearing of people having real life encounters with demons.
for example, one sister claimed that before she became a jdub she would regularly talk to demons and they would even fix stuff like her washing machine!
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My hypothesis? The numbers are down. These people are not coming in to the JW religion anymore. Kingdom Halls are filled with 2nd and 3rd generations of born-ins who don't know of anything else. Those who started the stories either left, died, or are too old and have stopped passing them on. No new people from the general public, no new ghost stories. No ghost stories, then no "demons," because to Witnesses all ghosts are "demons."
Interesting and well thought out reply.
In addition, OrphanCrow is correct when she says that this was being promoted from the leadership through print.
Could it be like the stories of folks being kidnapped by aliens (which are also decreasing) that have severely dropped now that there are cell phones that could actually record the event?
60th anniversary – i was baptized 9-1-56 .
my parents weren’t witnesses at the time, but my witness uncle studied with my brother and i. i think the only reason my parents let him was because my brother was having mental issues and were hoping it would help him.
my father surprised me a few years later, started studying and was baptized in 1961, later appointed an elder.
Such a lovely post Bonnie and so very encouraging to me personally.
Thank you!
gorby has had a personal paradigm shift lately.. from one point to an other i "feel" and "think" different about the jw subject.. - no more interest in doctrine.
- no more interest in things that happen 100 years ago into an religion.. - no more taking statements too serious.
it doesn't matter me at all what a generation doctrine change is all about, it doesn't matter me at all that brother elder said "blablabla boe!".
Fine explanation of what growing awareness feels like Gorby!
For me, I cant believe how much more "cult like" all the terms and lingo sound now that I am not right in the center of it and believing it.
at the meeting last night, at the annoucments at end of meeting they said make sure u take your ped card.
i said to myself what is a ped card?
blood cards are back.
The cards had become a completely downplayed thing for a while now.
In the meantime, they changed the wording of how to handle someone who takes blood in their elders manual.
They have downplayed it.
So now they are up-playing the cards again?
my recent escape from a home beloved was of sheer and unqualified necessity.
my people and i have been overtaken by a scorpion race of alien malefactors whose intent towards us is not one of beneficent intervention, but that of utter conquest.. if it were only the mere subjugation of a weaker species, we might have acquiesced, although begrudgingly.
however, the terrifying reality enjoined upon us proved to be the conquerors' brusque insistence that their insatiable hungers be satisfied with our quailing flesh.
I love the free flowing poetry round!
Nice ones Nancy!
Smiddy! Whoah, you did really good! That may be your first poetry but I hope you will keep going now!
Coco - look what you have started - you are an inspiration.
i wrote this earlier for my own benefit in order to get some thoughts straight in my head.
it is just my own personal pondering on what i think might be the motivating force behind having a faith.
it is not intended to attack, provoke or patronize anyone who has a belief and i hope it is not taken in that way.
Thanks for sharing your "inner workings" of the mind cobweb.
I am trying to sort out some of the same things for myself and it is helpful to read your thoughts.
And no, you didnt come across at all as provoking or patronizing IMO.
Funny Dunedain and so true.
According to JW belief, one of them is now spying on watching us from outer space
Maybe that oldest looking one over on the left, seated?
a few years ago while traveling in the northeast, my wife and i stopped in new haven, connecticut, at a b&b we'd reserved for the night.
no sooner had we unpacked and moved into the living room for tea and treats, our hosts began to talk about religion, and we learned they were jehovah's witnesses.
i didn't mind so much, but my wife was outraged that our hosts would use their place of business as a launching point to do missionary work.
Please tell Mrs Cold Steel that I agree with her!
Sorry you all had to deal with that during what should have been a relaxing time.
not too sure how long it will be, but i think that i will not be in a position to look at this site.. i met some cool friends on here.
i enjoyed having the speedy access to the private correspondence before the elders.
thanks atlantis, and all those that have had a share in this.
Nice to have met you Quarterback.
I hope this is not goodbye.
Be well, be happy!
