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  Cooperation and Conformity

  by Saethydd in

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  a common thing that jws point to as proof of god's blessing is the supposed cooperation between people of many different backgrounds.

  however, i think there should be a distinction drawn between collaborations that are performed through true tolerance and open-mindedness towards another's point of view, and collaborations that are the result of a high level of conformity by its participants.. the former sort can be seen, for example, in the un, which while not perfect, i believe does try its best to foster true cooperation between people of all nations.

  the latter of sort of cooperation, however, is more akin to the type found in communist dictatorships or countries controlled predominantly by a single religion which doesn't care to protect the rights of those in the religious minority.

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  millie210

  Remember the Pepsi commercial where they pulled a bunch of people together to sing and hold up a Pepsi?

  Those people did a convincing job. They probably were swept up in the moment (plus they were paid) and perhaps believed they really would help world peace.

  They were a group of strangers pretending to be something....

  that is exactly what jehovahs witnesses are doing.

  People are drawn in and saturated in the idea of global unity and "love" so they each assume the persona and seeing each other do it reinforces it.
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  Householder invited to KH luncheon

  by compound complex in

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  greetings, friends:.

  the following is one of those now-i've-heard-everything field experiences.. this morning i went to a client's home to collect on work done.

  while we were talking, the phone rang, she picked up, and told me she didn't recognize the caller id.

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  So they are either "cold calling" because the community is gated and they cant get in, OR Mary was perceived as showing interest previously and they are trying to consider her as a "return visit" maybe?

  Either way it sounds like "we cant come to you so you come to us" doesnt it?
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  What is the most bizarre counsel you received as a JW, from a JW?

  by Funchback in

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  2. beliefs

  there were many addressed to me.

  for example, i once had a sister tell me i was gambling because i liked playing skill crane (the machine where you have to try to pick up prizes like stuffed animals) at the arcade.

  i then fired back a her: "you saw the r-rated movie 'backdraft.

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  Anyone remember mood rings back in the 70s?

  All of us teenagers were told that if we wore them to the meeting for field service we would not be allowed to go unless we took them off first.

  An elders wife wore one but she was weird and got mad easily so no one dared take hers away.

  Proof right there that it is better to be prone to anger and NOT to cultivate the fruitage of the spirit - unless you want your mood ring confiscated.
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  (Young) Personal Experience of Leaving JW as a Baptised Brother

  by hongkong123 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was a baptised brother born in a jw family with my dad as the elder.

  i left (or fade) a year ago and i am still a student studying in college.

  i would like to post something here since i have quite a complicated feeling after a year out.

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  millie210

  Hi and welcome and your English was very clear!
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  I appreciate "our" free speech.

  by The Rebel in

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  i had given serious consideration too leaving the board.

  i rationalised my views on " muslims" we're not held by the majority so i should leave.

  but this would have been wrong thinking, instead i should appreciate the platform i was given to debate with free speech.

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  (I'm sorry the hate filled rhetoric stops me having dialogue with the more reasonable members here.)

  It doesnt.

  I am reasonable.

  I am your friend.

  I am here.

  The only thing that can possibly stop a dialogue between you and me is either you or me.

  ((you know I love you))
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  Wanting Less Involvement (long newbie story)

  by DepthsResounding in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was raised a jw and am currently pioneer in a foreign language congregation.

  i have been unhappy on and off with my involvement in this religion and am ready to step back again.

  growing up i was always active but extremely reserved and a low hour publisher.

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  millie210

  Just want to say hi and welcome to the forum.

  Lots of sincere people here who really want to see you have a successful fade and a good life.

  We are here for you!
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  Whats in it for them?

  by Moster in

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  2. beliefs

  i have been out for nearly 40 years now - baptized at 14 (although not to the org), but faded away.

  but i am wondering about this:.

  aside from the obvious power they wield, what's is in it for the gb?

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  millie210

  I was at a summer convention just after the "tight pants" speech and the same GB member, Tony ( is his last name Morris?) was about to give the last talk of the day. He started by announcing that the Chairmans office wanted him to tell the "friends" there was a bad storm cell approaching with heavy lightning and to please remain in the safety of the auditorium for the next hour while the bulk of the storm passed.

  Then he "jokingly" said and I am paraphrasing here

  I cant actually stop the lightning friends, that would have to be my big brother that could do that (looking upward and obviously meaning Jesus) I will be able to one day - but not yet

  and then chuckling as though he was being amusingly tongue in cheek.

  I was stunned. So inappropriate even if he does believe himself but most of the audience (not all) obligingly chuckled right along with him.

  Sickening.
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  JW Wife not listening

  by rathernotsay in

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  2. friends

  hey guys, looking for some advice with what to do with my jw wife that is simply ignoring my wishes/demands.

  first a little back story, we have been married for 6 years and have 3 children together.

  she is a jw, and i am not (nor do i have any religious beliefs).

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  millie210

  I know its hard but try to keep things from snowballing if you can, at least in your mind and heart.

  Dont worry for now about the kids being brainwashed. You mentioned school and kindergarten so they are getting good socialization there.

  JWs have a terrible retention rate even when both parents try hard. Your kids will (statistically speaking) move away from this religion all on their own shortly.

  I know opinions are a dime a dozen but I SO like the idea of locking your man cave. If a key lock seems to obvious, get a combination lock....either way!
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  Rutherford though his booklets were better than the Bible

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  this appeared in the 1932 booklet "where are the dead"..

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  millie210

  He wrote himself a great little sells pitch there didnt he?
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  JW Wife not listening

  by rathernotsay in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hey guys, looking for some advice with what to do with my jw wife that is simply ignoring my wishes/demands.

  first a little back story, we have been married for 6 years and have 3 children together.

  she is a jw, and i am not (nor do i have any religious beliefs).

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  millie210

  I pioneered for 9 years straight. It is HARD.

  There is a chance she will find herself a way to wiggle out of this very soon.

  I hope that is of some comfort!