Posts by millie210

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CAN WE SOLVE THE MYSTERY of why Watchtower doctrines changed when they changed?

by Terry in

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if a person gives a police report of a traumatic event, but later changes their facts during cross-examination, these changes are used to impeach the honesty of the witness.. this impeachment flows from a logical understanding facts must match reality without contradiction.. lets examine the history of the watchtower corporations leaders with a view to the harmony of.

true teaching over a period of years from 1879-1942.. "even though christmas is not the real anniversary of our lord's birth, but more properly the annunciation day or the date of his human begetting (luke 1:28), nevertheless, since the celebration of our lord's birth is not a matter of divine appointment or injunction, but merely a tribute of respect to him, it is not necessary for us to quibble particularly about the date.

we may as well join with the civilized world in celebrating the grand event on the day which the majority celebrate - "christmas day.

millie210

Wonderful thread and I have learned so much about the accurate early history.

I was thinking of two more reasons "doctrine"changes.

1) public outcry on the part of the mostly asleep followers.

2) law suits

EXAMPLE of #1 is the bedroom policies of the '80s. People were getting scriptural divorces over oral sex! That caused mass confusion and anger. Pretty soon all that sank like a rock and was never mentioned again.

EXAMPLE of #2 This one is currently happening...all the law suits on child abuse have the leadership dancing. This is behind the distancing of the GB from the "local" Halls. They are putting space between the crazy local elders and the money the Society holds.

I guess the thought is if they back way off and leave the "infrastructure" in place (elder arrangement, donation arrangement) the average wittness wont know. The Circuit Overseers are the only legal connection anymore.

I would say inmodern day JW world, doctrine is determined by legalities.

Follow the money - predict the doctrine.

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Encounter with JWs on Literature Cart , strange happening -maybe ?

by jhine in

yesterday i had a conversation with a man and lady who were with a literature cart in our local town centre .

among other things discussed was the accuracy of the nwt , which i said wasn't very accurate.. the man , of course , led the discussion from the jw perspective and looked up on his phone some quotes from "experts " endorsing the translation .

he asked the lady to make note of the names , at my request, so that i could check these quotes later .

millie210

The Ankh is a rustic symbol not an intricate one.

That would be necessary given its age and the carving skills of the ancients.

I can see how it would resemble a crude stick man with no deeper meaning,

But good catch on your part! You are obviously very observant!

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Leave it in Jehovah's Hands - Your thoughts?

by berrygerry in

leave it in jehovah's hands.

is there a more disgusting phrase in jw land?.

the abuse, harms, thefts, suicides, family destruction - leave it in jehovah's hands.. why would anyone with a more than 2 neurons say, "oh that makes sense," we do not need to change or intervene in any way.. sooner or later, god will take of things.. .

millie210

Perry, thanks for your thoughts.

My view is quite different concerning how the ransom of Jesus would/does work in theory.

But i very much appreciate your perspective and your kind way of speaking here.

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Berrygerry, I agree!

I think that phrase is one of those that "sounds good" when a person hears it but lacks real use.

Similar to other useless phrases that people seem to churn out in lieu of thinking....

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I just had fun giving a talk!

by OneEyedJoe in

so, unfortunately, i'm still on the tms and had a talk tonight (in front of a co, no less) and the talk was on the subject of adultery.

in the source material there's reference to "spiritual adultery" i.e.

idolotry or when israel had alliances with pagan nations.

millie210

Did the C.O. give you a look?

Or is he asleep about this too?

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10 hour basic pioneer provision question

by Letts Party in

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friends

i remember hearing about this rumor around the time of the annual meeting.

did this really happen?

i haven't heard anything about it at my meeting yet.

millie210

Hi Ajax,

If you scroll up to the top of this page, you will see a blue bar with four choices in it.

They are ACTIVE TOPICS - SEARCH - MEMBERS - NEW TOPIC

click on NEW TOPIC

nice to meet you!

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JW window cleaner dies in accident

by Magnum in

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friends

i just happened to hear about this through a long chain of communication.

i didn't know whether to believe it so i googled it and found the obituary notice.. philip blaylock.

posted yesterday november 21st, 2014. it is a sad day for all.

millie210

Im so sorry to hear this Magnum.

He had a good friend in you and thanks to your words, I am able to appreciate the man he was.

I used to visit in Brunswick a lot and while he doesnt look familiar to me (its been years since I was there) the story still hits close to home.

(((hugs Magnum)))

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What a Waste...but i dont mind....

by new hope and happiness in

i was listning to a song by ian dury " what a waste" such perfect and apt lyrics to explain my witness life.... anybody got any songs that explain there watchtower existence?.

.

millie210

Hozier - "Take Me To Church"

"I'll tell you my sins and you can sharpen your knife"

perfect description of a meeting with the elders

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What should the WBT$ do to get on track?

by punkofnice in

it looks as if the gb are blundering around and really showing themselves up for the buffoons they are.

all the stupidity about tight trousers is laughable and if the general public were to see these selfmportant cult leaders blabbing this stuff then the last shred of their credibility would be destroyed.........perhaps.. the wbt$ seem to have dug themselves into a deep pit of no escape with their lies, new light(tm), paedophile protection and all the other nauseating peripherals they have.. we also suspect that the wbt$ have their spies here because they are either predictable or get ideas form forums like this.. so!

are you listening watchtower(r)?

millie210

Radically change the elder arrangement so that they "serve" the congregation by giving talks and taking care of organizational trivia only.

Remove ALL judicial power from them.

It is a bad idea to have your supposed sheperds also be your penalty enforcers.

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Who is copying who? Jws or Mormons?

by stuckinarut2 in

it amazes me!.

witnesses go on about how "blessed we are to have the website and all the content from jehovah etc".

but i have been noticing the parallels between jws and the mormons!.

millie210

Just off the top of my head I would have to say

Why on earth would the Mormons want to copy the JWs.

THey are already doing better in every way.

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Anybody else relate, "Take me to Church" by Hosier to the KH and elders?

by EndofMysteries in

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friends

a good chunk of this song matches up to a life as a jw.. here are some lyrics and how i relate it.. .

my lover's got humour she's the giggle at a funeral knows everybody's disapproval i should've worshiped her sooner (whole verse about perhaps a spouse who left first and shunned by all, and now the other spouse who finally left should have supported them long ago) if the heavens ever did speak she's the last true mouthpiece every sunday's getting more bleak a fresh poison each week (the gb say they are the 'mouthpiece' of god.

this persons other is who revealed ttatt.

millie210

Funny you would mention this...

I was at a party last night and this song came on and a young person there said that line about sharpen your knives reminded them of their judicial meeting.

Sad what this Org does to its young people.