i believe that the bombings shortened the war in the pacific and probably saved countless lives.
i am not an expert on this subject but given the times it was probably the correct and moral thing to do.. what say you all?.
Very interesting question truthseeker.
I would first have to familiarize myself with the definition of a war crime vs an act of war.
I come from a background of 4 generations of military men ending with my father so I know very little that I would consider "ogjective".
wt publications http://www.a2z.org/wtarchive/archive.htm (old).
united nations http://www.randytv.com/secret/unitednations.htm .
when pornography is mentioned by the wts they mean men, who obviously cant control their sexual desires, so that even a moment is too much.
Real life event:
Two young men.
One, indulges in heavy duty porn for years. Including deviant porn. He gets caught at work and is told on,
Second young man, commits fornication once with his fiance the day before their wedding and come to the elders months later as husband and wife and confess.
First young man gets a talking to and thats it. Stays a pioneer and MS.
(still has his porn habit just more careful now)
second young (also a pioneer and M.S.) man is publicly reproved along with his new wife and told - yhey! at least you werent DFd!
There were no previous incidences with either young man that entered in to this so thats not a factor.
The only factor that seemed to weigh in was the second young mans wife dressed in a very modern and current way and was very pretty and had been "counseled" by elders that she was going to "cause trouble".
The young couple faded and focused on careers and became very well off. All the brothers now curry their favor (including the elders that handled their case and kow tow to them, eager to be invited to their vacation home or out on their boat. Some work for them.
The first brother is still a pioneer and M.S. and still watching his porn and still single.
So here is the question:
What was really accomplished here?
so we've heard from three different governing body members this year regarding child sexual abuse.. the latest one on the rc admitted there's a sexual abuse problem within the cult, yet lett and morris swept the dirt under the carpet stating they have a great reputation as far as sex abuse is concerned, and pointed their fingers at "apostate lies".
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i'm left totally confused at the contradiction of this "organization"..
One of the signs that someone is out of control is when they ricochet from one argument to the next.
It has struck me for the last few years as though the Org. has lost its way.
It may have been wrong before but there was clearly someone at the helm and there was consistency. Now, it seems as though there is an internal struggle for control that is reflecting itself in a myriad of ways.
Perhaps Jackson gave us a clue when he said that the GB doesnt write the information being produced but instead, checks it for scriptural correctness. Maybe that is where the breakdown we sense is. These "helpers" all jockeying for position, trying to get their views in print, trying to be the one who writes the next "a ha" thing that will make the GB look upon him favorably.
It reminds me of a newspaper bull pen where all the junior writers are desperate to get that next big headline.
within the first few minutes, mr. stewart asked geoffrey jackson if the members of the governing body consider themselves to be god's spokesperson on earth.. his response: "that would be presumptuous of us" (implying that they don't consider themselves to be god's sole channel of communication).. to me, that was the worst lie of about 26 lies he's told during this hearing.
however, mr. stewart missed an opportunity to call out mr. jackson on this bold-faced lie.
he should have asked him to explain why the watchtower magazine teaches otherwise.
Those people are such idiots.
Us, them, he, her.....blah, blah, blah.
The point is Jckson answered that would be presumptuous of US.
So all the equivocating and dancing around the plurality of the wording is ridiculous.
hey all,.
have you seen the new video on http://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/activities/living-bible-principles/adult-survivor-child-abuse-video/ ?.
isn't this too much of a coincidence?
i listened to the majority of jackson's part one testimony and it seems apparent to me that he either:1) is embarrassed to be a jw or 2) doesn't really believe.
i've heard countless times from the platform and in print that we should be proud to be jws and take every opportunity to defend our beliefs.
yet, it seems jackson didn't even want to admit that he believed he was being directly used by jehovah to lead the congregation as his spokesman.
Doubting Bro
millie210 - He did come across pompous and I love how when he was referring to a scripture, Mr. Stewart beat him to it. A few times during that exchange he gave the page number in the NWT and Stewart was already there. LOL - "worldly" educated people are also familiar with the Bible
Yes! I saw that and thought it was quite funny!
Im not sure what the most recent wording of the baptism questions are but dont they indicate that the GB thinks it is Gods representative on earth?
Doesnt a representative speak for someone? Isnt that inherent in the word "representative"?
i have seen some ask on this site how the active jw's are handling what is happening in australia.
here is my little experience from last night........ my parents were baptized in the late 30's as children and have never faltered in their determination to survive the great tribulation and live forever in paradise (even though they actively associate with all their df'ed kids).
my father is still actively serving as an elder and my mother has always been by his side.
I would have kept quiet too at their age.
I think Jackson is a pompous dirt bag but I think he came off incredibly well last night.
I had hoped he wouldnt.
I understand why your parents were jubilant.
i listened to the majority of jackson's part one testimony and it seems apparent to me that he either:1) is embarrassed to be a jw or 2) doesn't really believe.
i've heard countless times from the platform and in print that we should be proud to be jws and take every opportunity to defend our beliefs.
yet, it seems jackson didn't even want to admit that he believed he was being directly used by jehovah to lead the congregation as his spokesman.
I think he was pompous and believes 100% that he is Gods spokesman.
I think he is extremely proud and full of himself.
The way he would thank Stewart for his questions and compliment him on them being good questions was all very condescending.
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https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.
umbertoecho10 minutes agoWell if there are a pile of people with Jackson right now.... Iv'e got all of you in my house......
So there...Geoffrey
Yes you do Umbertoecho!
hello people.
the rc will still go ahead with it's live stream on friday 14th august.
however, it seem that it will be a video link.
Jackson just rubbed his face and licked his lips...where is our micro gesture person here on the forum?
Does that mean Jackson is wearing down? Getting tired? Uncomfortable?
Let it be so!
