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  Beroean Pickets

  by joe134cd in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hi i've been reading a web sight called borean pickets.

  http://meletivivlon.com/2015/05/09/may-tv-broadcast-on-tv-jw-org/.

  although the guy writes some real thought provoking stuff, i sort of don't know what to make of it.

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  That is interesting umbertoecho. Like I mentioned above, I really enjoyed his review of Jacksons testimony, It helped me line up the points in my mind and it was covered in a very clear way.

  The site is still neutral enough that I am hoping to point some still ins but growing alarmed friends to it.

  I can see that it is evolving dubstepped. I see that in myself too. I am becoming more outspoken about the Org and feel zero loyalty. When I look back, I see the path between where I started and where I am currently standing. has grown very long.

  The difference for me, is I feel no need to start a religion or be an activist in that sense. I understand the compulsion though.
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  Beroean Pickets

  by joe134cd in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hi i've been reading a web sight called borean pickets.

  http://meletivivlon.com/2015/05/09/may-tv-broadcast-on-tv-jw-org/.

  although the guy writes some real thought provoking stuff, i sort of don't know what to make of it.

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  millie210

  Just enjoyed reading the article on Jacksons testimony that was at this site.

  I think this site is evolving. Not so much neutral due mainly to the consistent and blatant actions of the Org.

  It cant be helped can it? The more you look at JWs the more you want to distance yourself from them and point out the irregularities and falsities.
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  Do you think the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was a war crime or a terrible act of war ?

  by truthseeker100 in

  1. social
  2. current

  i believe that the bombings shortened the war in the pacific and probably saved countless lives.

  i am not an expert on this subject but given the times it was probably the correct and moral thing to do.. what say you all?.

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  millie210

  Very interesting question truthseeker.

  I would first have to familiarize myself with the definition of a war crime vs an act of war.

  I come from a background of 4 generations of military men ending with my father so I know very little that I would consider "ogjective".
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  BLONDIE’S HIGHLIGHTS FROM THE 08-16-2015 WT STUDY (JUNE 15, 2015, pages (13-17) (CHASTE)

  by blondie in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  wt publications http://www.a2z.org/wtarchive/archive.htm (old).

  united nations http://www.randytv.com/secret/unitednations.htm .

  when pornography is mentioned by the wts they mean men, who obviously cant control their sexual desires, so that even a moment is too much.

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  millie210

  Real life event:

  Two young men.

  One, indulges in heavy duty porn for years. Including deviant porn. He gets caught at work and is told on,

  Second young man, commits fornication once with his fiance the day before their wedding and come to the elders months later as husband and wife and confess.

  First young man gets a talking to and thats it. Stays a pioneer and MS.
  

  (still has his porn habit just more careful now)

  second young (also a pioneer and M.S.) man is publicly reproved along with his new wife and told - yhey! at least you werent DFd!

  There were no previous incidences with either young man that entered in to this so thats not a factor.

  The only factor that seemed to weigh in was the second young mans wife dressed in a very modern and current way and was very pretty and had been "counseled" by elders that she was going to "cause trouble".

  The young couple faded and focused on careers and became very well off. All the brothers now curry their favor (including the elders that handled their case and kow tow to them, eager to be invited to their vacation home or out on their boat. Some work for them.

  The first brother is still a pioneer and M.S. and still watching his porn and still single.

  So here is the question:

  What was really accomplished here?

  
  

  
  
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  Contradicting Governing Body Members

  by Illuminated in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  so we've heard from three different governing body members this year regarding child sexual abuse.. the latest one on the rc admitted there's a sexual abuse problem within the cult, yet lett and morris swept the dirt under the carpet stating they have a great reputation as far as sex abuse is concerned, and pointed their fingers at "apostate lies".

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  i'm left totally confused at the contradiction of this "organization"..

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  millie210

  One of the signs that someone is out of control is when they ricochet from one argument to the next.

  It has struck me for the last few years as though the Org. has lost its way.

  It may have been wrong before but there was clearly someone at the helm and there was consistency. Now, it seems as though there is an internal struggle for control that is reflecting itself in a myriad of ways.

  Perhaps Jackson gave us a clue when he said that the GB doesnt write the information being produced but instead, checks it for scriptural correctness. Maybe that is where the breakdown we sense is. These "helpers" all jockeying for position, trying to get their views in print, trying to be the one who writes the next "a ha" thing that will make the GB look upon him favorably.

  It reminds me of a newspaper bull pen where all the junior writers are desperate to get that next big headline.
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  Geoffrey Jackson: "That would be presumptuous of us"...

  by Calebs Airplane in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  within the first few minutes, mr. stewart asked geoffrey jackson if the members of the governing body consider themselves to be god's spokesperson on earth.. his response: "that would be presumptuous of us" (implying that they don't consider themselves to be god's sole channel of communication).. to me, that was the worst lie of about 26 lies he's told during this hearing.

  however, mr. stewart missed an opportunity to call out mr. jackson on this bold-faced lie.

  he should have asked him to explain why the watchtower magazine teaches otherwise.

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  Those people are such idiots.

  Us, them, he, her.....blah, blah, blah.

  The point is Jckson answered that would be presumptuous of US.

  So all the equivocating and dancing around the plurality of the wording is ridiculous.

  
  
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  New video "Jehovah Has Done So Much for Me"

  by NoIdeaWhatToBelieve in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  hey all,.

  have you seen the new video on http://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/activities/living-bible-principles/adult-survivor-child-abuse-video/ ?.

  isn't this too much of a coincidence?

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  I wish there was a way to know if this is even a "real" experience or more like the ones given at the Regional Assemblies where things are more or less made up, or a combination of homogenized experiences to make a point.
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  Is Jackson embarrassed to be a JW?

  by Doubting Bro in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i listened to the majority of jackson's part one testimony and it seems apparent to me that he either:1) is embarrassed to be a jw or 2) doesn't really believe.

  i've heard countless times from the platform and in print that we should be proud to be jws and take every opportunity to defend our beliefs.

  yet, it seems jackson didn't even want to admit that he believed he was being directly used by jehovah to lead the congregation as his spokesman.

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  Doubting Bro
  millie210 - He did come across pompous and I love how when he was referring to a scripture, Mr. Stewart beat him to it. A few times during that exchange he gave the page number in the NWT and Stewart was already there. LOL - "worldly" educated people are also familiar with the Bible

  Yes! I saw that and thought it was quite funny!

  Im not sure what the most recent wording of the baptism questions are but dont they indicate that the GB thinks it is Gods representative on earth?

  Doesnt a representative speak for someone? Isnt that inherent in the word "representative"?
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  I watched Mr. Jackson last night with my super cult minded parents

  by Magwitch in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i have seen some ask on this site how the active jw's are handling what is happening in australia.

  here is my little experience from last night........ my parents were baptized in the late 30's as children and have never faltered in their determination to survive the great tribulation and live forever in paradise (even though they actively associate with all their df'ed kids).

  my father is still actively serving as an elder and my mother has always been by his side.

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  I would have kept quiet too at their age.

  I think Jackson is a pompous dirt bag but I think he came off incredibly well last night.

  I had hoped he wouldnt.

  I understand why your parents were jubilant.
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  Is Jackson embarrassed to be a JW?

  by Doubting Bro in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i listened to the majority of jackson's part one testimony and it seems apparent to me that he either:1) is embarrassed to be a jw or 2) doesn't really believe.

  i've heard countless times from the platform and in print that we should be proud to be jws and take every opportunity to defend our beliefs.

  yet, it seems jackson didn't even want to admit that he believed he was being directly used by jehovah to lead the congregation as his spokesman.

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  millie210

  I think he was pompous and believes 100% that he is Gods spokesman.

  I think he is extremely proud and full of himself.

  The way he would thank Stewart for his questions and compliment him on them being good questions was all very condescending.