Posts by millie210

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Blurring of genders

by Saltheart Foamfollower in

as sometimes happens at elders meetings with the co, he has a letter from the branch to read out.

this rarely is made available later so any policies have to be acted on from memory.

this visit a letter was read about blurring of the genders and in particular brothers dressing in a metrosexual style - tight clothing was mentioned again.

millie210

Whoa, hold up!

I remember years ago we had a DFd person who insisted on going out in field service. Of course the elders were livid and called the Service Desk.

What they were told is that they couldnt stop her.

She didnt have to be recognized or included but if she went out on her own and started witnessing, they were to leave her alone. The reasoning was this was a commission laid upon everyone by Jesus and it was not specifically negated by her disfellowhipping.

That is also why people who are reproved and lose privileges dont lose field service. Because it is a command not a privilege. So the elders take away things like commenting etc instead.

So how did I miss this major shift in policy?

Its laughable that they are now going to threaten people with yanking their "field service privilege" if this rumor is true. They already cant get people to go out in service as it is!

Any of you elders past or current can you tell us if this is true?

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reaching out: Need circuit assembly dates and locations: my stomach hurts just saying this and requesting this

by goingthruthemotions in

without giving up to much info about myself.

does anyone know where i could get a list of circuit assembly dates and locations for the western united states.

you all know that my brainwashed wife is still in.

millie210

You can also call the assembly hall and ask for future dates. Make sure you specify the language since the same program rotates in different languages at some Halls.

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Today's Text

by snugglebunny in

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millie210

Funny that the article says

NOWS the time to adjust your thinking!

and it was published 2 years ago -

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Jehovah's Witnesses and Religious Tourism in Africa

by OrphanCrow in

about a month ago, i had started a thread about a video the wts had released of an interview with the minister of tourism for zimbabwe.. http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/430330002/interview-zimbabwes-minister-tourism-jw-hq.

the video in that thread is no longer online.. the following article highlights the relgious tourism that the jehovah's witnesses have brought to africa.. african govts must prioritise tourism for economic growth: mzembi.

african governments must prioritise tourism development to stimulate economic growth and development on the continent, tourism minister walter mzembi has said.mzembi, who is also united nations world tourism organisation (unwto) chairman of the commission for africa, said tourism had long-term intangible benefits that came with enhancing destinations amid reports that zimbabwes projected 5,1% tourism growth for 2015/16 was ahead of all other economic sectors.. he advocated for the scaling up of religious tourism, telling the audience that jehovahs witnesses who thronged zimbabwe for their first international convention in the country had set a fine example which should be followed by all church organisations.. jehovahs witnesses held their international convention in harare.

millie210

I have a friend that just returned from that assembly.

Nice packaged tours, the country makes money and the Org gets the credit without spending a penny.

OC: Did you happen to see the letter from a government authority to the UN concerning the persecution in Malawi already being over by the time JWs were writing letters about it back in 75?

I just looked and couldnt find it but it was what I thought of when I read your post above.

I guess now we are looking at the mining of the wealth (in souls, religiously speaking) by the Org of Africa.

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The Governing Body's Publicity Methods

by John Aquila in

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millie210

Every time I see those .org flags flying I get a slightly stunned feeling.

As DOC said above "this isnt our grandparents religion anymore"..

So......

what exactly does that men for us?

Has there been a great apostasy take over at headquarters?

If that is the case we are right not to follow.

If that line of reasoning is incorrect, then was the "incorrect" viewpoint the one that existed before this?

The one that established and legally defended the good news, the purple triangles, the ones who died because of no organ transplants, or vaccines?

Were they all the apostasy?

Was this religions foundation apostasy?

Those seem to be the choices. Then or now, which?

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Max Larson's archived experience on tv-jw-org includes an AWKWARD statement

by Gilgamesh in

this isn't about anything sordid (or morbid, or reported that knorr did).. it's just that i found an odd-sounding statement in the archived interview that appeared at about 31m20s in the december 2014 monthly tv.jw.org broadcast (or at 4m35s in the stand-alone larson interview also on tv.jw.org).

it seems to reveal an attitude that you'd think would be obsolete about the power of the anointed.

in the attached image, as captioned by tv-jw-org, he said: "every overseer was anointed .

millie210

Didnt someone once say call no man father/"pappy"?

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Nice little summary by Barbara Anderson re dear old Geoffrey GB and "presumptuousness"...

by umbertoecho in

jw governing body claims to be the faithful slave.

did you know how (in sworn testimony during the recent australian royal commission hearing) governing body member geoffrey jackson responded to the question, do you see yourselves as jehovahs spokespeople on earth?.

jackson replied, that, i think, would seem to be quite presumptuous to say that we are the only spokesperson that god is using.. really?

millie210

thought the same thing when I read that DataDog.

What does that even mean "has been closely identified with"?

They dont have any problem calling out the wrongdoing of churches. They dont have any problem DFing thousands every year for supposed "wrongs".

So why get so immersed in legalese and mumbo jumbo when they talk about this?

You would think they would be proud to claim what they are supposedly (?) claiming.

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What will 1914 (DROPPED) mean for you (EX-JW)

by John Aquila in

let's pretend this might happen.

im not asking what it will mean for the jdubs or for the organization, but what will it mean for you---- if one day you wake up and the watchtower drops the 1914 doctrine.. (you know at some point they have to, but probably not our lifetime).

if you are disfellowshipped or disassociated and have been shunned by your parents, by your children, by you spouse or ex-husband/wife, for years or even less, will you call your relatives and ask/tell them;.

millie210

It would mean...

I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!

of course

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Special talk yesterday?

by TweetieBird in

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i got a call from my mother-in-law the other day begging me to go to the hall this past sunday for a special talk.

i didn't go but was wondering what the deal is?

details please..

millie210

We did have a thread about the Watchtower study this past Sunday Tweetie.

Here ya go:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/469160001/extreme-emotions-re-todays-watchtower

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After Death Communications in the JW community

by jack2312 in

my name is jack and i'm looking for after death communications from the jehovah witness community.

an after death communication (or adc) is when a loved one sends a kind of message to this side of life after their death.

it can be a dream or smell (like perfume or roses that would be attached to them in memory) or a feeling of their presence.

millie210

Jack,

Hi, nice to meet you!

In addition to the comments above about Witness indoctrination, many, many people here are convinced there is no God of any sort.

You see the problem? No God --> no afterlife---> no experiences.

It is the rare person who believes in no spirit life whatsoever but believes in an after life for humans.

Einstein had a theory, not developed, before his death that all time exists at the same time.

One way it was explained is time being like a river. People are entering and exiting the river up and down it all the time. While you are on the river, you are only aware of yourself and those you come upon. Others who are days behind you or days ahead of you are on the same river at the exact time you are however.

Now this theory, if one believes in God or spirits could help explain some things...like foretelling the future and the past (divination/prophecy) and it could also explain attempts at communication I guess.

The continuum in which time flows, is measured, and exists is relative to what is known at the time a person lives.

Some people are satisfied with the world as it is known and explained in their lifetime. Others question and seek the parameters - it sounds like you are one of the latter perhaps?