as sometimes happens at elders meetings with the co, he has a letter from the branch to read out.
this rarely is made available later so any policies have to be acted on from memory.
this visit a letter was read about blurring of the genders and in particular brothers dressing in a metrosexual style - tight clothing was mentioned again.
Shout out to you former / current elders.
Is the existing policy now that a person can be forbidden to go out in field service?
If that hasnt happened then maybe whatthe C.O. was telling Saltfoam and the other elders is that these individuals cannot pioneer (hold special appointments) or lead the group in service?
about 4 months back, apostate lon posted a youtube video entitled watchtower society broadcasts pagan symbol.
i try not to believe in conspiracy theories but that symbol just doesn't belong there...hmm.
I had not watched that one.
I just watched it but I skipped ahead to the part about this thread topic.
It looks like that book was a compilation of his readings and thoughts. Then he goes in to house for his "study".
After that he gets a life, a new wife and tons of cool looking friends. He gets to wear his beads out in field service with no suit coat and is a pioneer. There is a shot showing him closing that book this thread is about and walking away from it.
Like he doesnt need it anymore because he got a new life.
So I dont see that there is anything mysterious here?
What am I missing?
as sometimes happens at elders meetings with the co, he has a letter from the branch to read out.
this rarely is made available later so any policies have to be acted on from memory.
this visit a letter was read about blurring of the genders and in particular brothers dressing in a metrosexual style - tight clothing was mentioned again.
Whoa, hold up!
I remember years ago we had a DFd person who insisted on going out in field service. Of course the elders were livid and called the Service Desk.
What they were told is that they couldnt stop her.
She didnt have to be recognized or included but if she went out on her own and started witnessing, they were to leave her alone. The reasoning was this was a commission laid upon everyone by Jesus and it was not specifically negated by her disfellowhipping.
That is also why people who are reproved and lose privileges dont lose field service. Because it is a command not a privilege. So the elders take away things like commenting etc instead.
So how did I miss this major shift in policy?
Its laughable that they are now going to threaten people with yanking their "field service privilege" if this rumor is true. They already cant get people to go out in service as it is!
Any of you elders past or current can you tell us if this is true?
without giving up to much info about myself.
does anyone know where i could get a list of circuit assembly dates and locations for the western united states.
you all know that my brainwashed wife is still in.
Funny that the article says
NOWS the time to adjust your thinking!
and it was published 2 years ago -
about a month ago, i had started a thread about a video the wts had released of an interview with the minister of tourism for zimbabwe.. http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/430330002/interview-zimbabwes-minister-tourism-jw-hq.
the video in that thread is no longer online.. the following article highlights the relgious tourism that the jehovah's witnesses have brought to africa.. african govts must prioritise tourism for economic growth: mzembi.
african governments must prioritise tourism development to stimulate economic growth and development on the continent, tourism minister walter mzembi has said.mzembi, who is also united nations world tourism organisation (unwto) chairman of the commission for africa, said tourism had long-term intangible benefits that came with enhancing destinations amid reports that zimbabwes projected 5,1% tourism growth for 2015/16 was ahead of all other economic sectors.. he advocated for the scaling up of religious tourism, telling the audience that jehovahs witnesses who thronged zimbabwe for their first international convention in the country had set a fine example which should be followed by all church organisations.. jehovahs witnesses held their international convention in harare.
I have a friend that just returned from that assembly.
Nice packaged tours, the country makes money and the Org gets the credit without spending a penny.
OC: Did you happen to see the letter from a government authority to the UN concerning the persecution in Malawi already being over by the time JWs were writing letters about it back in 75?
I just looked and couldnt find it but it was what I thought of when I read your post above.
I guess now we are looking at the mining of the wealth (in souls, religiously speaking) by the Org of Africa.
Every time I see those .org flags flying I get a slightly stunned feeling.
As DOC said above "this isnt our grandparents religion anymore"..
So......
what exactly does that men for us?
Has there been a great apostasy take over at headquarters?
If that is the case we are right not to follow.
If that line of reasoning is incorrect, then was the "incorrect" viewpoint the one that existed before this?
The one that established and legally defended the good news, the purple triangles, the ones who died because of no organ transplants, or vaccines?
Were they all the apostasy?
Was this religions foundation apostasy?
Those seem to be the choices. Then or now, which?
this isn't about anything sordid (or morbid, or reported that knorr did).. it's just that i found an odd-sounding statement in the archived interview that appeared at about 31m20s in the december 2014 monthly tv.jw.org broadcast (or at 4m35s in the stand-alone larson interview also on tv.jw.org).
it seems to reveal an attitude that you'd think would be obsolete about the power of the anointed.
in the attached image, as captioned by tv-jw-org, he said: "every overseer was anointed .
jw governing body claims to be the faithful slave.
did you know how (in sworn testimony during the recent australian royal commission hearing) governing body member geoffrey jackson responded to the question, do you see yourselves as jehovahs spokespeople on earth?.
jackson replied, that, i think, would seem to be quite presumptuous to say that we are the only spokesperson that god is using.. really?
thought the same thing when I read that DataDog.
What does that even mean "has been closely identified with"?
They dont have any problem calling out the wrongdoing of churches. They dont have any problem DFing thousands every year for supposed "wrongs".
So why get so immersed in legalese and mumbo jumbo when they talk about this?
You would think they would be proud to claim what they are supposedly (?) claiming.
let's pretend this might happen.
im not asking what it will mean for the jdubs or for the organization, but what will it mean for you---- if one day you wake up and the watchtower drops the 1914 doctrine.. (you know at some point they have to, but probably not our lifetime).
if you are disfellowshipped or disassociated and have been shunned by your parents, by your children, by you spouse or ex-husband/wife, for years or even less, will you call your relatives and ask/tell them;.
It would mean...
I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!
of course
