What is it they are really afraid of?
It cant be homosexuality...is it following trends?
What exactly is behind this ridiculous?
If they really believe its "bunker time" why are they worried about this?
i was reading in another forum, that a letter to the elders instructed them to speak to anybody who persists in wearing tight pants.
if changes don't happen then the instructions are to disqualify him from being a publisher but it won't be announced to the congregation.
i am am curious to see if this letter will surface.
What is it they are really afraid of?
It cant be homosexuality...is it following trends?
What exactly is behind this ridiculous?
If they really believe its "bunker time" why are they worried about this?
i was reading in another forum, that a letter to the elders instructed them to speak to anybody who persists in wearing tight pants.
if changes don't happen then the instructions are to disqualify him from being a publisher but it won't be announced to the congregation.
i am am curious to see if this letter will surface.
This is not a picture of me but it IS a picture of my haircut....too short, shaved in the back,
therefore I cannot go out in field service!
have you all noticed the obsession witnesses have of putting jw.org on all their social media sites like facebook, twitter, instagram etc?.
so many put it in their bio section...like some sort of loud proclamation to other witnesses that they are righteous and spreading the message.. it's also very lazy.
now with no personal effort at all, they can just say jw.org and be "witnessing".
Have any of you seen the big JW semi that is making the rounds on everyones facebook?
It seems that the buttons are just one part of a growing materialistic "look at what we have" movement in JW land.
i was reading in another forum, that a letter to the elders instructed them to speak to anybody who persists in wearing tight pants.
if changes don't happen then the instructions are to disqualify him from being a publisher but it won't be announced to the congregation.
i am am curious to see if this letter will surface.
Im glad to see so many posters picking up on the "no field service" part of that letter.
This is really a huge change from Headquarters being introduced quietly.
Once, a sister here who was DFd was going out in service on her own. The service desk was called and the elders here were told there was nothing to that could be done about her going out in service on her own, Since she was still dedicated and baptized, that was her right. But not to work with her or support her in anyway since she was not a member of the congregation while DFd.
That has been the official position for years.
This new stand of disallowing field service based on grooming is really opening a can of worms.
Whats next? Annulling baptism?
Because by their own "rules" isnt a person required to preach if they are baptized? So if there are provisos on that how does it get determined?
If it can be taken away, how is it given back? What is the protocol exactly?
Is it up to elder whims?
Yep, can of worms has been opened.
im in the process of drifting out.
my entire family are jw's.
my wife and her family are too.
with the news these past days that bethels in both rome and belguim are being closed does anybody know how many bethels are left worldwide?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-36365967.
great article...chinese were brewing beer 5,000 years ago.... not bad considering it's not far off adam & eve... :).
.. .. chinese drinkers may have been brewing beer as many as 5,000 years ago, new research suggests.. us and chinese researchers say they found traces of barley, millet, grain, and tubers used in fermentation.. it was found on pottery discovered in shaanxi province in northern china during an archaeological dig 10 years ago.. it would be the earliest known instance of beer-making in china and suggest a sophisticated approach.. published in the us proceedings of the national academy of sciences, the study also suggested that barley may have been used for booze before being used for food.. as every home-brewer knows, funnels are an essential piece of kit.
in october of 2000, i faded away from the watchtower.
like most people, i have family and friends who are jw's (including my wife and parents).
fading is generally the best method for people in that situation.
This is an incredible post.
A truly cerebral look at how to fight the Watchtower and win with minamal collateral damage and win.
I suspect they secretly love it when people go all ragey and fire off on them. It makes them look like true prophets and cements their position with still in friends and family.
Indifference is their biggest worry and concern. You would strike fear in to the hearts of the GB if you had a big enough platform and could get this post out there.
via reddit.
here are the morning program highlights.
will update for the afternoon once it's all over.
15,000 people in attendance. I would love to know how many actually believe all of that in their heart of hearts and how many are just going along.
so here an update on my current situation, in a nutshell i've been trying to quietly fade for the past 5 months.. well, my mom somehow found out that i am currently fading and that i live with my boyfriend (for more info on this check my previous posts) i told her yes i live with him and yes i no longer want to be a jw.
anyways, yesterday she met my boyfriend.. awkward.
and after lunch she pulled me aside to tell me that the po came up to her (he was part of my jc when i was reproved) he said to her "someone came to me and said - i cannot say who so they will remain anonymous- but that your daughter is living with someone" my mom confirmed and apparently he told her that i have one week to confess this, and if i don't my parents are obligated to tell them everything.. what kind of nonsense is that?
How long ago were you reproved?
Was it in the same Hall your publisher record cards are still in?
Is that your moms Hall?
These are not questions I expect an answer to but they will be factors in what happens in your situation.
Since it has only been a 5 month fade I do not think that is long enough to get you off their radar. Five years maybe or even half of that.
You have gotten good advice about what to do above so I will just add that I am sorry you feel so undone by this. I am sorry that at what should be a happy time in your relationship, you have this to deal with. You have my sympathy.