.... i just looked through some videos on the scientology and the mormon youtube channels.animated whiteboard animations, bad acting, compelling music...it's all the same as jw.org...or the other way around.the similarity is very striking to me.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghjomvjadbghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxf3pwvjoka.
i wonder why that is....
We had a thread a while back discussing how they might have (probably did in fact) used an outside consulting company.
It was especially mind boggling to see the videos the Mormons have produced for children as compared to the "Caleb and Sophia" videos the Org is using.
Guess which ones came first? Yes, the Mormons did it first.
I would love to know the name of the media consulting firm that was used!
in the awake!
of 8th jan 1947 it states that shunning is a pagan practice and is "all together foreign to bible teaching".. hope this helps some..
Thank you Zeb!
This is within the lifetime of many who were born in or converted. This is not from the 1800s.
Not that it should matter but I find it sometimes eye opening to say to still in people, you do realize this was written the year after your dad was born?
Or the year after your parents were baptized..
I am extremely tired of the way the Org lets old teachings die out rather than defend them or apologize for them.
So cowardly.
i pass along this advice as a new topic, to get it past one off comments that may not get as much attention.. i exited the jehovah's witnesses about a decade ago.
like many, my personal situation felt to restrained to act on my impulse and get out quickly.
i took about a year and a half to two years to leave via da.. i empathize with anybody leaving the watchtower who finds it difficult to falsify dedication, interest, and belief in both their personal and public life.
Ding
What did you do about going out in service when you knew you didn't believe it anymore?
I dont know if this would help any for you but pack your car as full as you can with publishers so that no one gets much of a turn.
Check out your own territory and chose one where you know most people are at work everyday.
If you do have to talk to someone - pick a light easy scripture of encouragement and just say:
My purpose in calling today was to share an encouraging thought from the Bible - read the scripture and tell them to have a nice day and leave......
if the JW accompanying you questions what you did at the door, just say that you are trying something new that the C.O recommended......which was to use the Bible more at the door.
(C.O.s are always saying this....they also say to use discretion about leaving literature so you can use that line also if you wish)
i pass along this advice as a new topic, to get it past one off comments that may not get as much attention.. i exited the jehovah's witnesses about a decade ago.
like many, my personal situation felt to restrained to act on my impulse and get out quickly.
i took about a year and a half to two years to leave via da.. i empathize with anybody leaving the watchtower who finds it difficult to falsify dedication, interest, and belief in both their personal and public life.
This is AWESOME oldskool!
What does the Org say about that....they say you only have to tell the truth to those who are entitiled to it,
Well! By virtue of everything they do and say they are not entitled to My truth, That is how I get around any moral dilemma with them.
I also appreciate your point about not reading and getting worked up. Most JWs are tired and stuck and not up for the fight...better for everyone to use a light touch .
Thanks for taking the time to write this all out, you are going to help some who are struggling.
yes, we could have been born in an alley in calcutta or with the physical deformities associated with thalidomide.
instead, we were born into or introduced to a repressive, american, religious cult, that shielded us from the warmongering game of chess, the militaristic boy scouts, fornication-inducing sock hops, the twist, as well as the hokey pokey.
we heeded the warnings, avoiding the greedy self-worship associated with masturbation, decadent rock 'n roll and anything preceded by the word "extra-curricular.".
I loved your title and first post TMS.
One trap I think it is easy to fall in to is "if not for this, than I could have/would have______ " (fill in blank with an idealized situation).
The fact is, the world is full of people who never reach their potential, get that degree, make their first million, travel the world etc.
One of the things I have said to myself is who is to say that I would have done XYZ if only I was not a withess?
I have many worldly family members who are living the average life. Religion didnt stunt them, they just are where they are.
It really helps me not to feel bitter about the wasted years as a JW.
I also learned a solid skill set as to how to talk to anyone about anything and I know more about ancient Jewish history than I suspect I will ever need! LOL
So I embrace where I came from and what I can carry forward now that I have left the JWs behind (which is my end goal....leave them far and permanently behind) I have met many wonderful, sincere people and carry those memories with me also.
I remember reading a fascinating paper on the process of intuition that talked about how people who had grown up on the streets of Calcutta tested amazingly high in intuitive skills. The conclusion was that living in a state of adversity had helped them hone intuitive skills as a matter of successful survival.
Not everyones situation is that dire but it illustrates the fact that good (or shall we say useful?) can come from bad.
I am in a long slow fade in part because I have a business that employs some JWs and neither they nor I want to damage what we see as a good thing we have going employer/employee wise.
That gives me even more reason to adopt a philosophical mindset that embodies grace and gentle, humorous acceptance of all that has gone before.
I am not quite there but I will be, because that is my goal.
if this is up already and i missed it , - apologies..... today's study article ,from march study wt , is entitled " jehovah guides his people in the way of life"....theme is is.
30.21 " and your own ears will hear a word behind you saying, “this is the way.
walk in it,” in case you should go to the right or in case you should go to the left".
Interesting that there is no scripture with this.
quote:
to keep receiving God’s blessing, we need to pay attention to all the directions provided through the Christian congregation.
in an effort to reduce the number of posts, this year i will try to add links to this post.
now, on with the leaks & releases!
first up.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nzvwhflss4.
cobweb
this one has no dialogue so language doesnt matter.
gotta say, i just saw this video set after Armageddon and even i feel emotional and i haven't been a witness in 18 years. I believe it is the last video played on Sunday afternoon and shows all the people from previous videos, some of whom got disfellowshipped and came back, some who died, some who gave up on their lives to serve etc. I can imagine their will be some serious lumps in throats after it ends and a spring in the step as they go home
Im glad you explained the tie in to previous videos cobweb. I didnt "get" it that they were even the same people and so to me it seemed kind of lack luster. Just a bunch of people in real cotton clothes all smiling a lot.
Thats it! It reminded me of a Cotton commercial!
maybe some of you interested in this:.
between 11/2015 and 05/2016 they merged in germany 48 congs into 24 congs.
in this time they build 16 language-groups and 3 sign-language-groups.
I find his very interesting, thank you both.
I know they have to be doctoring the numbers and this helps us see how.
every year in dozens of cities where conventions are being held, newspapers typically write an article about the event.
there are exceptions, but usually it is like the articles above.
i would love to see more newspaper articles that did some actual objective reporting, rather than puff pieces.
Iown Mylife
Here in Atlanta one year, a newspaper blurb about the district convention included a photo of the audience. One person could be seen yawning a huge gaping bored yawn. LOTS of irritated warnings followed in the months after, in the local "needs" talks.
Marina
Thats pretty funny.
Note to selves: Any of you attending this year be sure to yawn if you see cameras rolling!
every year in dozens of cities where conventions are being held, newspapers typically write an article about the event.
there are exceptions, but usually it is like the articles above.
i would love to see more newspaper articles that did some actual objective reporting, rather than puff pieces.
You are right vidiot.
DOC mentioned it in his post too.
I know this because I used to take the press releases (already prepared by the Org and the local brothers would fill in the who- what- when- where part) to the newspaper office and drop them off.
The other thing that would happen is the convention chairman would have the press called and if there is a slow news day or if the community events section is not filled, a reporter comes and is treated like a VIP.
They "interview" someone from the chairmans office and get toured around a bit.
The television crews are handled the same way.
