tyler mccumber, no, you probably don't know of him.
he may be one of jehovah's witnesses.
his dad, mark, was a member the last i knew.. .
Looking at the Facebook pages of Marks wife Paddy and the girls (Tylers sisters) it doesnt seem that they are overly "witnessized" and that is putting it mildly - if you get my drift.
I knew this family growing up but not in touch for years. I hope they are out and happy.
has anyone else received this email?
"items priced to move, up to 80% off cost".
i'd post the email but i worry they put secret identifying marks on it somehow.
Once again this sounds like a desperation sale by a company who is making millions upon millions selling valuable NY real estate.
Are they desperate or not? I just cant figure it out.
most witnesses i knew were exteeemly reluctant to go out in the ministry.
but when they did, they were simply scraping by, eager to avoid conflict and just do their hour or so speaking to lonely old ladies or widowed old men.
placing magazines in a car group, doing route calls, plodding along in the utter boredom of their responsibility to get some time on a report by the last day of the month.. this was never a warning work.
Xanthippe
Actually it wasn't for me. I really meant it. Perhaps that's why I don't feel so frustrated that I've totally wasted the first thirty years of my life. At least I lived authentically and when I realised the religion wasn't about love or caring about peoples' survival that helped me to leave.
I'm not the only one who feels this way but sometimes we feel bad admitting we really believed it and tried to help people. We shouldn't feel bad IMO because always living authentically shines a light on bullshit and helps you, eventually, avoid it.
my ex-wife actually opened up to me today over the phone.
she was quite anxious and, i could sense, i little upset.
for those that dont know my situation im separated from my wife.
DJS
I've thought PE has been telling only half the story for a while. I never responded to any of his numerous Nancy Kerrigan whining "Whyyyyyyyyy' OPs previously, because I thought he needs to grow up and accept the situation for what it is.
But this site seeks to infantalize posters and marinade them in victimization.
I don't doubt PE is hurting, but there are a lot of immature, selfish actions and reactions in his words and stated behavior.
I think he is leaving out some key facts. And he needs to start looking at the man in the mirror for much of the reason he is where he is.
If he doesnt he will continue to find himself in similar situations.
You are welcome, enablers, mollycoddlers, victim marinaders and placaters.
You need me on that wall.
DJs posts: Brave. Clear. Honest.
Glad you think so too Pale E. All the best to you as you navigate this.
so much for dedicating the kingdom hall, hallfields lane, peterborough, .
pe4 7yh for 'true worship(tm)'.. it's now a mosque.. not that i care anymore, i have finished thinking much about the jobos.
moved on and glad of it.. just thought you'd be interested.. now i'll sod off again for another few months.
punkofnice
I'm kind of over all the Jobo stuff for now. I pop in from time to time. If I'm honest (or even dis-honest), I get terminal constipation from watching all the debates on this forum. All the stances that seem so bloody superior.
I am not a mass-debater
Agreed.
So very nice to see you Punk!
yoga pants parade.
i guess tight pants tony isn't the only man that needs to get a life!.
To me the part that made Sorrentinos statement so insulting is that he categorizes which women should wear them (women under 20).
For example, a physically fit and genetically blessed woman in her 30s (Gisele Bundchen comes to mind) would look aesthetically as good in yoga pants as as a random 20 yr old given to pepsi and jelly donut diet coupled with 16 hours a day gaming and texting (think people of Walmart; random photo)
So his attempt at catogorization? Fail
His reasoning (hes dismayed at his own sagging frame)? Fail
If his thinking process was a self administered IQ test? _________?
Wonder how many JW people will make the connection between this and the "Governing Bodys" (cause they are SO unified you know) official statement on tight pants?
i began my exit from the jehovah’s witness organization about 5 years.
i was a 4th generation born-in, with all the baggage that comes with having the “spiritual heritage” attached to the group.
i was an elder/bethelite/pioneer/whatever other useless privilege there was, i had no family or friends outside of the organization… my entire life was that org.
Thanks so much for sharing that letter Paul.
There are all kinds of strength.
It took a strong man and a good man to write those words.
i'm at home and hear knock on door , i sneak and look i see two men and recognise one voice and go back into lonunge and ask wife ( who is inactive believer) does she want to speak to elders ,she says no ,then literally 3 minutes has pasted another knock the 3 minutes seemed like an eternity.
so brave heart me think fuck it i'll answer ,i invite them in for coffee, i recognise one older man he is a unique elder who i genuinely was fond of when i was in his name is andrew ,the other guy i didn't recognise we will call harry ( not real name australia doesn't have that many cos with his same name).
so i think to myself i will tread lightly and not cause to much of a fuss for the wife's sake, but my personality is very the opposite of treading lightly ,as you read my threads you will realise i'm not timid.
I LOVE all of it especially the parting shot.
Really good job chook!
i have been out now for 6 years but lately i have been giving some thought to da.
i just kind of feel that chapter in my life is still open and for some reason i feel like da'ing might close that chapter but i'm not entirely sure.
im not df either, when i left i basically faded and disappeared.
eewx2 you raise a good point.
Each circumstance has its own variables and we should all be able to do what is right for us and get the full support of our community here while we do it.
If someone wants to celebrate the holidays and not have the hassle of the witnesses having an "opinion" on that, I can see how it would definitely make disassociating an option.
so... i live in mexico and i am helping with an esl class (english as a second language).
actually, i am helping with two classes.
i get two days a week in which i just stand there and have a debate with the class, encouraging as many as possible to just talk... in english.. anyways, i like talking about subjects that generate debate.
I personally dont see why shame should be part of it.
When we know better we believe better. That is just the way it works.
Pity the man (or woman) who didnt hold some erroneous belief at some point in life and then replace it with a better one when they recognized it.
That is one of the duties (and joys) of living - to be alert to growth and change and embrace it.
You sound like a good person with an interesting job ILoveTTATT2!
