thw wts likes to play games with their statistics.
one interesting but truly tragic is the number of jwhovah's witnesses who commit suicie.. now i suspect that if a person commits suicide shortly before or after they are disfellowshipped then the elders would say that person wasn't a witness or that they had done something so terrible that they were too guilty to admit it and by their action of committing suicide they pretty much declared they were no longer a jw.. yup fancy talk to make sure any crap didn't fall on them.. so my question.. do you know of cases like this?
if so then can you answer a few more questions.. had this person been dfed or in real danger of being dfed or whatever the equivalent is if they were never baptized?.
By the way...I meant to add welcome to the group MentalClarity!
On the matter of suicide, I know an elders wife who has attempted it a couple of times. Each time it gets hushed up and covered over by the elder body.
The bulk of the congregation knows too but its not openly acknowledged.
An unhealthy environment by any ones standards~
thw wts likes to play games with their statistics.
one interesting but truly tragic is the number of jwhovah's witnesses who commit suicie.. now i suspect that if a person commits suicide shortly before or after they are disfellowshipped then the elders would say that person wasn't a witness or that they had done something so terrible that they were too guilty to admit it and by their action of committing suicide they pretty much declared they were no longer a jw.. yup fancy talk to make sure any crap didn't fall on them.. so my question.. do you know of cases like this?
if so then can you answer a few more questions.. had this person been dfed or in real danger of being dfed or whatever the equivalent is if they were never baptized?.
How horrible to be publicly reproved for a suicide attempt.
Words fail me.
so i've been thinking a lot about why i stayed a jw for so long even though i had always had doubts about the doctrines.
i was born into the religion, left and came back as an adult for another decade.
some of the things that come to mind (besides the threat of shunning-and this isn't to minimize that very real threat) was:.
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@millie210 family is the big one too! I don't have any family (siblings, aunts, uncles, cousins) who are not JWs. It would have been easier of at least one family member was not JW.
Boy do I agree!
Thats ok though...I am of the opinion that at least some of our still in family envy us.
Of course they shove the thought down and repress it immediately but thats not the same as never having the thought is it?
just curious how we all think.. what prompted or influenced your choice of username for this forum?.
there are some really amazing names, and it would be great to hear the stories behind them.... mine was nothing fancy.
i just felt "stuck in a rut too" along with so many others.
I wanted something that sounded very "blah" and would not identify me.
I liked the mill stone picture because we all know what their very own book (Bible) says about millstones and those who mistreat people. Those are the type cast "appointed men" whose galling behavior became the catalyst to make me look on the "wicked" internet to see if anyone else ever got mistreated by the elders.
Maybe? Possibly? LOL then I found all of you!
(Little did I know previous to being here, that being manhandled by the elders is the NORM rather than the oddity.)
Thats all worked out ok though. I have a new life, full of my own thoughts and actions and it is ambrosia for the soul!
I have reached the point where I would like to use my real name and picture, since I feel a part of this community but I still have possible repercussions to think about so I will be patient and just be "the one with the mill stone picture" for now.
so i've been thinking a lot about why i stayed a jw for so long even though i had always had doubts about the doctrines.
i was born into the religion, left and came back as an adult for another decade.
some of the things that come to mind (besides the threat of shunning-and this isn't to minimize that very real threat) was:.
What made me stay in was family.
I thought they would flip out and sure enough...they have!
I am not Dfd but they basically treat me as though I am.
My second reason was fear. It seemed like such a big step to walk away.
I have found it is made easier (for me) by doing it in baby steps.
Still, nothing is as bad as being "in" and knowing its not the right thing.
i wanted to take a moment to give a quick baby update.
my last post mentioned that we lost twin b at 17 weeks but twin a is doing well so far.
we are 25 weeks tomorrow and a week past the point of viability so we are starting to get really exited for this new adventure in our lives.
What a pretty little thing she is!
You can already see she has a great profile (and a very pretty nose).
i wanted to take a moment to give a quick baby update.
my last post mentioned that we lost twin b at 17 weeks but twin a is doing well so far.
we are 25 weeks tomorrow and a week past the point of viability so we are starting to get really exited for this new adventure in our lives.
Happy Baby News!!!
Thanks DK we are all rooting for you and Mrs DK and of course adorable little Miss DK!!!
i was approached by two jehovah’s witness elders who handed me a pamphlet advertising the jw .org website.
each man carried a bible and an apple ipad.
they told me that they enjoyed visiting with people about the bible, and asked if i was a bible reader.
Hi Roger,
In spite of being a life long JW (previous to now) I didnt have a clear understanding of the topic this thread is about. I didnt even know I didnt understand it quite frankly.
I really appreciate your posts for their clear and easily understandable points.
I am glad you are here and looking forward to your future posts!
watching rated r movies?
maybe a little gambling in vegas?
when i was in high school i went to the mall with my friend at the time, who happened to be a female.
freddo that was such a sweet story!
watching rated r movies?
maybe a little gambling in vegas?
when i was in high school i went to the mall with my friend at the time, who happened to be a female.
Reading horoscopes (harmless fun but still felt guilty)
Feeling happy when I had an excuse to skip meetings or field service ( I thought I should be appropriately sad BUT I WASNT!)
