Posts by MoeJoJoJo

:The Justice card often appears when there is a need to take a more detached viewpoint of a troublesome situation. Imagine yourself as wise as Athena and look at it. What do you see? What should you do? Are you being fair to yourself and those around you?

:Alternately, Justice suggests frustration with bureaucracies or organizations, an impatience with snarled red tape. The appearance of this card shows that this is a temporary situation. Worry not--you will be able to defend yourself; reasonable ears will hear and justice will be done

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MSNBC / Newsweek

by mikepence in

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hey ya'all...go to http://www.msnbc.com/news/767800.asp and click on the highest number (7) on the "msnbc viewer's top 10" box at the bottom.

if enough of us click that, the story will get more prominent play on msnbc.com.. peace,.

mike.

MoeJoJoJo

Alright! #3

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Is It Fair To Discipline Born-Into-It's?

by Englishman in

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a born-into-it teenager or maybe someone in their early 20's, gets df'd for an unspecified offence.

later the df'd person protests that df'ing is unscriptural and inhumane, only to be told "you knew the score, you knew what would happen, it's your fault".. but is it?

maybe it might be fairer for a converted person to be df'd for breaking the rules, after all, a converted person has joined the jw's willingly and has therefore accepted the witness rules.

MoeJoJoJo

A little off topic but here's some nostalgia. This is from the 1953 convention.

"Keeping Refreshed At New World Society Assembly" (Taken from the Report of New World Assembly, Yankee Stadium)

"If you attended the New World Society Assembly, were you an average conventioner? If so, then besides your regular meals you patronized the refreshment stands during the eight days for 14 cups of fruit punch, 3 pieces of ice cream, one third of a pie, 5 hotdogs, 2 meat sandwiches, 3 half-pints of milk, and 3 lollypops.

Not much refreshment, you think? To give you some idea how much food was prepared to serve you your share, it took a hundred thousand gallons of salad dressing-not to mention another thousand gallons of relish and mustard, 8,996 heads of lettuce-just to garnish your sandwiches, and 56,040 onion rolls and five tons of bread to serve them. The cream that went into your coffee would fill enough barrels to stretch side by side from home plate to the speaker's stand in Yankee Stadium. Two million paper cups and 875,000 straws were supplied for your fruit punch and milk, and 110 tons of ice were used to keep the punch and other food cold.

For your convenience 24 complete refreshment stands, backed by 18 supply kitchens, were dispersed over the stadium grounds, staffed by 5,500 cheerful volunteer workers and utilizing a third of a mile of counter space.

"You gave us the biggest order for milk we ever received, or hope to receive-unless you people come back," a leading dairy industry head assured Earl Singer, Refreshment manager. "You must have the right religion," commented another food supplier."

This was my favorite bit.... "You must have the right religion," commented another food supplier." LOL!! Why because they could eat so much. What would he think if he only knew the JWs have to bring their own lunch now.

Back on subject, I also was baptized at 13 and I remember a talk given before I took the plunge, the talk stated roughly that just because a parent was doing "right" that would not necessarily save their child at Armageddon. If that child was old enough to know right from wrong and was not baptized then they could lose their life when Armageddon came. There was also the constant pressure from my parents. I think I also did it for attention and approval.

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JWS slave class deaths

by formoretax in

this is my first post and i offer thanks for all of your thoughts, some of which are almost as crazy as my own.. i ran away at age 14 to escape and have never looked back.

the decision was difficult but nothing by comparison to the trauma which followed.

this organization is "evil" in all of its ways and should not be allowed to grow.

MoeJoJoJo

Joanna,
if you can get your hands on a copy of Crisis of Conscience by Ray Franz, you'll find out the whole story on Malawi.

-You can lead a fool to wisdom, but you can't make him think.

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This Board and JWs

by comforter in

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at one time, this board seemed to be fair.

but i no longer think that it is, to jws, at least.

ex-jws here can cuss, insult, say fu to everybody they don't like, and call jws pedophiles.

MoeJoJoJo

LOL @ Outlaw...BTW, you forgot your 'one long monologue'

-You can lead a fool to wisdom, but you can't make him think.

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Circuit Overseer online. Welcome to my pages

by Carlo in

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hi brothers and sisters.

i am a jw circuit overseer.

you are welcome to visit my pages.. http://www.angelfire.dom/ky/proclaimer.

MoeJoJoJo

Dakota, you little devil!

-You can lead a fool to wisdom, but you can't make him think.

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Classes, Just for Men

by Celia in

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classes for men at our local adult education center.. sign up by june 1, 2002. note: due to the complexity and difficulty level of their contents, each course will .

accept a maximum of eight (8) participants each.. topic 1 - how to fill up the ice cube trays.

step by step, with slide presentation.. topic 2 - the toilet paper roll: does it grow on the holder?

MoeJoJoJo

LOL @ all of ya!!

-You can lead a fool to wisdom, but you can't make him think.

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Congregation Letter 5-24-02

by silentlambs in

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christian congregation.

of jehovah's witnesses.

2528 route 22 patterson ny 12563-2237 phone (845) 306 1100 .

MoeJoJoJo

I'll ask the question again...."When is there ever 1 or 2 witnesses to a molestation?"

I agree with Lizardsnot.

So in actuality, nothing's changed.

BTW, Bill, Thank you for posting this.

-You can lead a fool to wisdom, but you can't make him think.

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Thank you for the support

by Erica in

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i can't find the words that would express how grateful i am for all the support, not only for all of you to back me on the dateline show but for my trial as well.

i don't think i would have had the courage to go through the trauma if it wasn't for all your prayers and encouragement.

dateline was a huge help for many and i know this because i have recieved quite a few calls, one from a current jdub who wants out for the safety of his 16 month old baby, i was so excited that he lifted the veil and saw it for the pure truth that it was.

MoeJoJoJo

Erica, Thank You!! You are so awesome. Thank you for caring so much about others.

I would like to add that:

Even if most JWs remain in the organization then at least they were informed. I think they will all be on guard with their own children and be more careful of who they allow them to be alone with. Many, I am sure, were not aware that pedophiles could exist in the congregation.

So hopefully many children will be saved from this horrible experience.

-You can lead a fool to wisdom, but you can't make him think.