the regulars here may remember that my daughter starting posting here last week, under the name princess.
in chat, people have asked if she is pretty, and i say she is.
she also looks just like me, but thinner, and prettier.
Great picture. I can tell that you and your mom have a great relationship, Princess-that is wonderful.
I too am 31, married with children (3).
"plant your own garden and decorate your own soul, instead of waiting for someone to bring you flowers." -Veronica A. Shoffstall
several have made outright statements and others have suggested that the society's negative position on higher education has changed.
'the society does not discourage higher education where i live.
' worse, 'apostates have made it all up--the society has never discouraged education.
What? was that comment meant for me?
Oh, I see - you were commenting on another thread, I think-
larsguy said:.
"if your messiah didn't appear in 1992, kes, then he ain't coming, or at least he's not the one promised in the bible.".
so tell me... where is that messiah that appeared in 1992?
Lars, I've got a possible candidate that meets some of your Messiah criteria. How about Michael Jackson!!! 1. black 2. former JW 3. seems a little gay to me
He may be lurking on apostate sites-I don't know but its a possibility!!
LOL
"plant your own garden and decorate your own soul, instead of waiting for someone to bring you flowers." -Veronica A. Shoffstall
i thought the box on page 152 of the creator book was interesting.. (the chapter is titled "a great teacher shows us the creator more clearly") the lesson was dealing with the sermon on the mount and the society says "here are some highlights that we can reap from this greatest sermon:".
seven points were mentioned, among them were "how to be happy, how to cope with anxiety..." and they list the chapter and verse from the sermon to go along.. the one point that caught my eye was "how to recognize religious fraud" and the scriptures for that point were matt.
and matt.7:15-23 which warns us about false prophets.
I thought the box on page 152 of the Creator book was interesting.
(The chapter is titled "A Great Teacher Shows Us the Creator More Clearly") The lesson was dealing with the Sermon on the Mount and the Society says "Here are some highlights that we can reap from this greatest sermon:"
Seven points were mentioned, among them were "How to be happy, How to cope with anxiety..." and they list the chapter and verse from the Sermon to go along.
The one point that caught my eye was "How to recognize religious fraud" and the scriptures for that point were Matt. 6:5-8, 16-18;
and Matt.7:15-23 which warns us about false prophets.
I wonder who the Society thinks that scripture applies to since they seem to think that it doesn't apply to them? Even though they have prophesied numerous times and none have come true.
In the same box they quoted Mohandas Gandhi as saying "that by following its (Sermon on the Mount)teachings, we shall have solved the problems...of the whole world."
I thought that was an interesting quote.
"plant your own garden and decorate your own soul, instead of waiting for someone to bring you flowers." -Veronica A. Shoffstall
before i became a registered poster here, i was reading someone's post that mentioned an upcoming dateline program that was possibly dealing with the org.
can someone tell me if this is true and if it is when does it air, or did i already miss it?.
"plant your own garden and decorate your own soul, instead of waiting for someone to bring you flowers.
Thanks I will be sure to watch for that.
"plant your own garden and decorate your own soul, instead of waiting for someone to bring you flowers." -Veronica A. Shoffstall
several have made outright statements and others have suggested that the society's negative position on higher education has changed.
'the society does not discourage higher education where i live.
' worse, 'apostates have made it all up--the society has never discouraged education.
Just about everyone I grew up with in my circuit either have cleaning jobs, work in some type of construction or retail. There's alot of brothers in construction (alot of them "have the privilege" of helping on the two-day KH's).
Please don't get me wrong, nothing is wrong with these types of jobs, they are gainful employment but, for the most part, not very high-paying. And you don't need a college degree.
My husband is also in construction and he works extremely hard trying to support our family.
PS I'm glad you all understand me now, I'll explain myself better next time.
"plant your own garden and decorate your own soul, instead of waiting for someone to bring you flowers." -Veronica A. Shoffstall
before i became a registered poster here, i was reading someone's post that mentioned an upcoming dateline program that was possibly dealing with the org.
can someone tell me if this is true and if it is when does it air, or did i already miss it?.
"plant your own garden and decorate your own soul, instead of waiting for someone to bring you flowers.
Before I became a registered poster here, I was reading someone's post that mentioned an upcoming Dateline program that was possibly dealing with the org. Can someone tell me if this is true and if it is when does it air, or did I already miss it?
"plant your own garden and decorate your own soul, instead of waiting for someone to bring you flowers." -Veronica A. Shoffstall
several have made outright statements and others have suggested that the society's negative position on higher education has changed.
'the society does not discourage higher education where i live.
' worse, 'apostates have made it all up--the society has never discouraged education.
Everyone, I do get the point-no organization has the right to tell an individual whether or not they should or shouldn't acquire higher education. It is none of their business.
All I was saying is this---If I attended college back when I graduated, which was about fourteen years ago my father would have been removed as an elder. Now there are brothers holding positions in the congregation who are attending college themselves. And I am sure the CO is well aware. So give a newbie a break here, I was just making an observation.
By the way, that WT article I cited was written by the Society not my local congregation.
I AGREE, THE SOCIETY DOES FLIP FLOP ON THIS ISSUE AS WITH MANY OTHERS AND THAT ITS ALL ABOUT CONTROL.
ALL THAT I WAS SAYING IS THAT THEY NO LONGER TAKE ACTION AGAINST YOU IF YOU ATTEND COLLEGE AND THEN I WENT ON TO RAMBLE OFF SOME POSSIBLE REASONS WHY. I WAS TRYING TO SAY THAT THEY LET UP A LITTLE NOT ENTIRELY.
If you don't agree with me that's fine but I do get the point. And I am angry about this issue just like the rest of you.
"plant your own garden and decorate your own soul, instead of waiting for someone to bring you flowers." -Veronica A. Shoffstall
several have made outright statements and others have suggested that the society's negative position on higher education has changed.
'the society does not discourage higher education where i live.
' worse, 'apostates have made it all up--the society has never discouraged education.
I agree that pioneering, Bethel, etc. are still encouraged above attending college but I do feel that things are not as strict as they were. Maybe different congregations have a different attitude on the subject. In the congregation I attend there are a couple of elders whose children attend college full-time. There are also two young brothers attending college and serving as Ministerial Servants. I see more of the attitude that you go to college first then pursue pioneering,etc. reflected in this KH. When I was younger this was a no-no.
"plant your own garden and decorate your own soul, instead of waiting for someone to bring you flowers." -Veronica A. Shoffstall
several have made outright statements and others have suggested that the society's negative position on higher education has changed.
'the society does not discourage higher education where i live.
' worse, 'apostates have made it all up--the society has never discouraged education.
Maximus,
I still beg to differ. I do feel that the Society has bent a little on the higher education thing. Notice the WT Nov 1, 1992 it says"The general trend in many lands is that the level of schooling required to earn decent wages is now higher than it was a few years ago...It is difficult to find jobs with decent wages after completing simply the minimum schooling required by law...No hard-and-fast rules should be made either for or against extra education."
That is a different tune than when I graduated high school.
another article was in the WT 96 2/1
"plant your own garden and decorate your own soul, instead of waiting for someone to bring you flowers." -Veronica A. Shoffstall
