Rado your numbers are meaningless, you don't compare the same years, you don't break the numbers down to what was the cause of the homocide was, ie, gunshot, strangulation, knife, etc.
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UK Gun Laws: Possession = 5 Years Imprisonment.
by Englishman infollowing the deaths by shooting of 2 teenage girls last week, the uk government is speeding through even tighter gun controls than ever before.. already, high court judges have been told to impose a minimum 5 year jail sentence to anyone found in possesssion of a hand-gun in a public place.
also, consideration is being given to outlawing replica firearms as well as air powered weapons.
much is being made of the violent lyrics sometimes contained in rap - music which appears to often endorse gun culture.. see:http://news.bbc.co.uk/ for full story.. englishman..
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UK Gun Laws: Possession = 5 Years Imprisonment.
by Englishman infollowing the deaths by shooting of 2 teenage girls last week, the uk government is speeding through even tighter gun controls than ever before.. already, high court judges have been told to impose a minimum 5 year jail sentence to anyone found in possesssion of a hand-gun in a public place.
also, consideration is being given to outlawing replica firearms as well as air powered weapons.
much is being made of the violent lyrics sometimes contained in rap - music which appears to often endorse gun culture.. see:http://news.bbc.co.uk/ for full story.. englishman..
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Trauma_Hound
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/ts20021126.shtml
Thomas Sowell (archive)
(printer-friendly version)November 26, 2002
Gun control myths
Professor Joyce Lee Malcolm of Bentley College deserves some sort of special prize for taking on the thankless task of talking sense on a subject where nonsense is deeply entrenched and fiercely dogmatic. In her recently published book, "Guns and Violence," Professor Malcolm examines the history of firearms, gun control laws and violent crime in England. What makes this more than an exercise in history is its relevance to current controversies over gun control in America.
Gun control zealots love to make highly selective international comparisons of gun ownership and murder rates. But Joyce Lee Malcolm points out some of the pitfalls in that approach. For example, the murder rate in New York City has been more than five times that of London for two centuries -- and during most of that time neither city had any gun control laws.
In 1911, New York state instituted one of the most severe gun control laws in the United States, while serious gun control laws did not begin in England until nearly a decade later. But New York City still continued to have far higher murder rates than London.
If we are serious about the role of guns and gun control as factors in differing rates of violence between countries, then we need to do what history professor Joyce Lee Malcolm does -- examine the history of guns and violence. In England, as she points out, over the centuries "violent crime continued to decline markedly at the very time that guns were becoming increasingly available."
England's Bill of Rights in 1688 was quite unambiguous that the right of a private individual to be armed was an individual right, independently of any collective right of militias. Guns were as freely available to Englishmen as to Americans, on into the early 20th century.
Nor was gun control in England a response to any firearms murder crisis. Over a period of three years near the end of the 19th century, "there were only 59 fatalities from handguns in a population of nearly 30 million people," according to Professor Malcolm. "Of these, 19 were accidents, 35 were suicides and only three were homicides -- an average of one a year."
The rise of the interventionist state in early 20th century England included efforts to restrict ownership of guns. After the First World War, gun control laws began restricting the possession of firearms. Then, after the Second World War, these restrictions grew more severe, eventually disarming the civilian population of England -- or at least the law-abiding part of it.
It was during this period of severe restrictions on owning firearms that crime rates in general, and the murder rate in particular, began to rise in England. "As the number of legal firearms have dwindled, the numbers of armed crimes have risen," Professor Malcolm points out.
In 1954, there were only a dozen armed robberies in London but, by the 1990s, there were more than a hundred times as many. In England, as in the United States, drastic crackdowns on gun ownership by law-abiding citizens were accompanied by ever greater leniency to criminals. In both countries, this turned out to be a formula for disaster.
While England has not yet reached the American level of murders, it has already surpassed the United States in rates of robbery and burglary. Moreover, in recent years the murder rate in England has been going up under still more severe gun control laws, while the murder rate in the United States has been going down as more and more states have allowed private citizens to carry concealed weapons -- and have begun locking up more criminals.
In both countries, facts have no effect whatever on the dogmas of gun control zealots. The fact that most guns used to murder people in England were not legally purchased has no effect on their faith in gun control laws there, any more than faith in such laws here is affected by the fact that the gun used by the recent Beltway snipers was not purchased legally either.
In England as in America, sensational gun crimes have been seized upon and used politically to promote crackdowns on gun ownership by law-abiding citizens, while doing nothing about criminals. American zealots for the Brady bill say nothing about the fact that the man who shot James Brady and tried to assassinate President Reagan has been out walking the streets on furlough.
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UK Gun Laws: Possession = 5 Years Imprisonment.
by Englishman infollowing the deaths by shooting of 2 teenage girls last week, the uk government is speeding through even tighter gun controls than ever before.. already, high court judges have been told to impose a minimum 5 year jail sentence to anyone found in possesssion of a hand-gun in a public place.
also, consideration is being given to outlawing replica firearms as well as air powered weapons.
much is being made of the violent lyrics sometimes contained in rap - music which appears to often endorse gun culture.. see:http://news.bbc.co.uk/ for full story.. englishman..
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I hope the USA will follow this great example!
Your not even in the US, what does it matter to you? Yep un-arm the law abiding citizens, and then only the criminals will be able to have them.
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For those who don't believe in God
by freedom96 inwhen we were witnesses, we certainly believed in god.
some of us were born into it, and others have perhaps come from other religions, while still others may never had any religious faith at all.
some here on the board now claim that there is no god at all.
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But I have faith that one day he will. In his own time...
One thing I learned, is that you can't wait around for "god" to do anything for you. If you want eternal life, I suggest you poor money into science, not some religion, science actually has had results. Science has come alot farther in explaining the universe, then any religious text. We're creating life in the labratory, we're cloning animals, perhaps humans someday. I like the old line from devout religious people, when science monkey's with nature, something about "Playing God", if we are exibiting godlike powers of creation, then it stands to reason, that there might be a higher inteligence, but more than likely, he/she/it/them was where we are today, which make he/sh/it/them not a god.
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Birthday List
by nicolaou inc'mon guys, we can celebrate our birthdays!!!.
post your birthdate here and let us know how you want to get your 'birthday card' (email, post on the board, text message, soaped-up kyliegram!).
my birthday is october 16th and i'd be happy to receive any of the above.. .
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March 26th
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personality test
by pr_capone inhttp://test.thespark.com/person/ .
activist.
(dominant extrovert concrete feeler ).
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PERFORMER (Dominant Extrovert Abstract Feeler )
CharlieLike just 6% of the population you are a PERFORMER (DEAF)--personable, self-assured, and excellent under pressure. You are extroverted and strong-willed, which, in combination means you are good with people and aren't willing to let opportunity pass you by. Congratulations. I'm sure all the peons you've stepped on never saw it coming and didn't feel a thing.
You like being naked.
Anyhow, you have formidable creative talents, and you often following what your heart tells you instead of your logical mind. Your exuberance can earn you many friends and admirers, despite your ambition, or it can intimidate the less confident into keeping their distance. It's also possible you're Madonna. -
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Silentlambs PRESS RELEASE - Distribute Freely
by abbagail infrom: "silentlambs" [email protected].
date: tue, 7 jan 2003 14:21:28 -0600. to: [email protected].
subject: press release-distribute freely.
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Grits, the local press in Seattle weren't interested to much, until we came up with local people, that want a local angle, most times.
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SUV'S Owners Support Terrorists!
by pettygrudger inyep, new campaign ad's on tv basically links the owning of an suv to the need for lots of gas, to that money going to countries that supply that gas, to the terrorists who get funding from those same countries.. so, based on this - what kind of car do you drive?
do you think that we american's have a moral or ethical responsibility to self-reduce our need for oil, and reduce just in general all the "materialistic" things in life to which we feel entitled?.
i drive a geo prizm - 35 mpg - because of our environment (and plus i'm just a cheap ass!
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I think the anti-drug comercials are funny. How many terrorist do you know, that are from Vancouver, BC? Since that's where most the pot comes from in the northwest.
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St. Louis Reporter Seeks Silentlambs for Interview
by abbagail infrom: "silentlambs" [email protected].
date: tue, 7 jan 2003 23:19:35 -0600. to: [email protected].
subject: st louis area.
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I understand, just be there for her, and tell her, she has many supporters out there, if she needs help.
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St. Louis Reporter Seeks Silentlambs for Interview
by abbagail infrom: "silentlambs" [email protected].
date: tue, 7 jan 2003 23:19:35 -0600. to: [email protected].
subject: st louis area.
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Beelzdub, will she talk to reporters, as long as her face isn't shown? I had two people that were interviewed at the Seattle press conference, that weren't on camera, and they didn't use they're full names. Reporters are usually good about this.