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Jehovah's Witnesses asking woman to pay legal costs in sexual abuse lawsuit

by ignored_one in

http://canadaeast.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?aid=/20030723/cpn/20587021&cachetime=15 .

jehovah's witnesses asking woman to pay legal costs in sexual abuse lawsuit.

toronto (cp) - a woman who received $5,000 in damages after accusing the canadian wing of the jehovah's witnesses of negligence over their handling of allegations of sexual abuse is being asked to pay for part of the religious group's legal costs in the case.

needs_lots

I want everyone to know that I do appreciate all the love I get here. The other day my husband tried to tell me that I need to avoid reading anymore about this lawsuit and relax. But I can't . The only other support I get other than from my husband is from all of you. I have never asked for a penny from anyone throughout this lawsuit. We have just tried to make things work. But if anyone can help financially my husband I would be more than greatfull. I really want to fight this with all I have. I know I can't stop now. It makes me feel so cheap asking for this kind of help, but I really don't know what else to do. I got a wonderful email from a lady who is fighting for legal custody of her children to protect them from the borg, and it has drained her too. If anyone has been in a legal battle , they will understand our difficult situation. I hope one day to meet all of you. One of My greatest wishes is to be apart of an exjw reunion, where I can be with people who really understand how difficult it is.

I sent impartial a private post with Charles work number. I believe you posted his home number. Charles means well.......but Iam not sure what happened at trial. I don't know if iam aloud to post my address for support. But again......we live in Fredericton, newbrunswick canada and www.canada411.ca will give you our home address. It will be under my husbands name Scott Boer. Anything anyone can do to help would be a great gift. I hope one day to be able to help others when my life has calmed down. I would love to be the female "bill bowen". I think he is so couragous to do what he is doing. The funny thing is I didn't even know this support group exsisted until 2 months before my trial last september. I really was all alone. All of my family are JWs. Iam glad I saved my 3 little girls from it. I hope this battle teaches them some important lessons about life, and cults. I want them to be proud of who they are, without having to fall back on a religion for control.

thanks again,

vicki

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Jehovah's Witnesses asking woman to pay legal costs in sexual abuse lawsuit

by ignored_one in

http://canadaeast.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?aid=/20030723/cpn/20587021&cachetime=15 .

jehovah's witnesses asking woman to pay legal costs in sexual abuse lawsuit.

toronto (cp) - a woman who received $5,000 in damages after accusing the canadian wing of the jehovah's witnesses of negligence over their handling of allegations of sexual abuse is being asked to pay for part of the religious group's legal costs in the case.

needs_lots

Impartial,

Thanks again for your "diligence". I know that what you are saying makes total sense. But like I said before, unless you talk with my lawyer and help him to understand , I have given up. Everyone keeps telling me its too late. So unless you know a way.........please call him. I have tried and tried and tried......but no one listens to me. I had the proof, I had the book, I had 5 elders testifying with me that these guys did make me confront my father on 2 occassions, and I had people testify to the fact that I fell apart after the confrontations and was forced to leave. In my dads letter it said "Vicki became the sacrifical lamb". I told the truth, I did the research, despite what the judge says "I DO REMEMBER EVERYTHING". I remember being told to forgive my father, and show signs to the congregation that I had forgiven. I remember my parents making my life hell, cancelling my wedding and telling me that my children would die if I didn't turn around "my wicked ways" and come back to the truth. The "truth" that made me their sacrifice in their stupid game. Why the judge did not see......I have no clue. Iam being to wonder if anyone can help. We have 1 week to make submissions to the judge or appeal and no one has been able to come up with a plan that can work. Impartial, I have no idea if you are a spy for the society. I have asked you so many times to send me a private post and tell me who you are so I can get you to help me. Posting here does not help me. I can tell my lawyer all the things you said, but he won't do anything unless you have some kind of legal precedence. It would be just like the society to send someone in to screw with my mind, make me say something I shouldn't , and then twist that knife that one last time to kill what little life I have left. Actions speak louder than words. You say you can't find my lawyers number, well its there if you look. Go onto www.canada411.ca and look up his name. I can't take anymore chances. If you think you can help than for gods sake help. Yesterday I had the worst panick attack. My heart was beating so hard I thought I was going to die. All these words about what we should do, and what would help...........but I don't know a thing about law. I wanted to get into my car and never come back. Iam tired, very tired.......

v

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Jehovah's Witnesses asking woman to pay legal costs in sexual abuse lawsuit

by ignored_one in

http://canadaeast.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?aid=/20030723/cpn/20587021&cachetime=15 .

jehovah's witnesses asking woman to pay legal costs in sexual abuse lawsuit.

toronto (cp) - a woman who received $5,000 in damages after accusing the canadian wing of the jehovah's witnesses of negligence over their handling of allegations of sexual abuse is being asked to pay for part of the religious group's legal costs in the case.

needs_lots

This is vickis husband;

The flock book was used in the trial but the WT had a different print edition and the paragraphs were not on the same page so the WT lawyer got it dismissed from the judges consideration. So it was really the watchtower legal dept that did some fancy footwork to get the flock argument excluded. Hawkaw is right in that we have to let the judge make her decision about cost on the issues. As tough as it has been vicki is tired, so very tired now and does know what else to do other than survive this with her family intact.

As far as legal precidence dont forget that the judge noted the extraordinary amount of influence elders have in someones life.

If you want to help vicki then get us some canadian legal precidence for admitting evidence through proper channels.

And if the JW's get costs from us then it will be at a huge PR cost to them. Let their true colours come out in the press.

If you want SF then release your plan in the court of public opinion and not at the judges. You will be far more effective by exposing the dirt to the masses than to a judge who is bound by the rule of law. We know you mean us no harm, but please for gods sake don't destroy the only chance we have to get out of this JW nightmare. We have no idea if it will help or hurt by sending her the info direct. Don't give the JW bastards even the slightest chance to weasel out of this.

Scott

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Jehovah's Witnesses asking woman to pay legal costs in sexual abuse lawsuit

by ignored_one in

http://canadaeast.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?aid=/20030723/cpn/20587021&cachetime=15 .

jehovah's witnesses asking woman to pay legal costs in sexual abuse lawsuit.

toronto (cp) - a woman who received $5,000 in damages after accusing the canadian wing of the jehovah's witnesses of negligence over their handling of allegations of sexual abuse is being asked to pay for part of the religious group's legal costs in the case.

needs_lots

Impartial,

The american law is different than that in canada. If my lawyer does not present important information than it would be him i would go after in court for negligence after my lawsuit is closed. This is what I have been told. I know nothing. I am a 32 mother of 3 little girls, with no education when it comes to the law. I hear different stories about what I can and can't do every day. Everyone has their own opinion, and I have no idea. I am being lead blindly, and Iam trying to figure out what advice I can use. I wish I knew the law better. But I don't . If you"impartial" think you can help, or see something that we don't or know something we don't, then I suggest you talk with my lawyer and make suggestions to him. His number is in the Toronto Phone book under "CHARLES C MARK". Perhaps you can help by calling him. I wish too that the judge could see the flock book, and I don't understand why Hawk thinks it wouldn't be a good idea for others to write to her and tell her their story and send the book. It would be up to her to decide to read it or not. It wouldn't be coming from me or my lawyer. What other options do we have. Do we just sit back and let this thing fall apart. I think everyone could try and take some kind of action. If even after she has done costs, it would still be good for her to hear other stories, and read the book. Of course I don't know. I don't know how far we as a society can take it.

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Jehovah's Witnesses asking woman to pay legal costs in sexual abuse lawsuit

by ignored_one in

http://canadaeast.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?aid=/20030723/cpn/20587021&cachetime=15 .

jehovah's witnesses asking woman to pay legal costs in sexual abuse lawsuit.

toronto (cp) - a woman who received $5,000 in damages after accusing the canadian wing of the jehovah's witnesses of negligence over their handling of allegations of sexual abuse is being asked to pay for part of the religious group's legal costs in the case.

needs_lots

Hello all,

Yes, glad to see that everyone feels the same way I do. I don't think there is anything we can do now. Its up to the judge to decide costs. I have no control over it anymore. I didn't even know they were coming after me for costs until 2 days ago. I just don't know what to do now. Its obviously upsetting for our family. Like I said before, it was a huge moral victory, but...............at what cost? When will it ever end? When will they stop hurting the victums? Not sure anyone can help us now. But knowing I have all of you for moral support is "BIG". Don't get so down on yourself expatbrit. You didn't know either, and obviously they didn't want to say it outloud at the court house last week. You only told me what you heard, and I appreciate you and hawk being there for me when I couldn't afford to go and listen for myself. We need to find a way.......but I don't know how other than through what the press is doing(thanks to hawk and the others). Lets just keep hoping there is going to be some justice.

vic

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Case In Canada Sets Precedent For Future Lawsuits

by rainbow2003 in

this is to commend vicki boer for having pressed her lawsuit successfully against the watchtower itself, thus setting a precedent for future lawsuits.

it is regretted that the judge did not reward her more than a mere $5,000 which won't even start to pay for the hassle, but future judges can now use the precedent and some may award other victims of watchtower pedophilia in the millions of dollars.

chin up, all.

needs_lots

hello Impartial,

Sorry I have not been online checking posts. I would love to know the answers to your questions as well. I still am shocked at the judges decision. It was a huge moral victory, but there are still alot of unanswered questions. Why did she not believe me when all the evidence we had proved that they made me confront twice. Why the elders were not held somewhat responsible is beyond me too. I think she was trying to be cautions. the judge will be going over costs and letting us know the end of august. So i will keep everyone up to speed. Thanks for your interest impartial. This has been a hard battle with lots of unanswered questions.

vic

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Vicki Boer vs Watchtower court decision

by needs_lots in

needs_lots

The judge did believe that i was made to confront my father 1 time only, and she believed the elders when they said the 2nd meeting they put us in seperate rooms. So she did find them guilty of the 2nd meeting,only the first. We all know that at judicial hearings we all sit together. I don't really know why the judge believed them over me.

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Anyway to meet xjw's in toronto area?

by micheal in

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i would love to meet up with anyone from the greater toronto area.

right now really being shunned, just left and need some support.. thanx, would mean more than you know.

needs_lots

I used to live in the Toronto area. Send me an email and we can talk.

[email protected]

vic

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Vicki Boer transcript in Word and Scans New GT Book in Spanish

by blondie in

the vicki boer decision has been typed into "word" format for easier viewing for those that may not have .pdf capability.

also we now have scans of the new great teacher book in spanish thank to our latino brothers and sisters.

be looked at by clicking the links on the home page in the column to the left.. .

needs_lots

I was talking with Charles tonight(my lawyer), and he will be sending in his submissions tomorrow. He says there is no way to tell if the WT paid for the elders defence. HOw could we find this out?

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Vicki Boer transcript in Word and Scans New GT Book in Spanish

by blondie in

the vicki boer decision has been typed into "word" format for easier viewing for those that may not have .pdf capability.

also we now have scans of the new great teacher book in spanish thank to our latino brothers and sisters.

be looked at by clicking the links on the home page in the column to the left.. .

needs_lots

Thanks expatbrit,

How did you find this? Do all legal cases get put on this site? Charles goes in on Friday to work on costs. Iam crossing my fingers and toes that he doesn't mess this one up for me again. We still haven't heard if they will appeal or not. Thanks again for all your support expatbrit! Hope we can talk again soon.

vic

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