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please refer to the following.

http://farms.byu.edu/free/transcripts/index.html.

begin with daniel peterson's evidences for the book of mormon.

QUANTUM

That's ok d8ta maybe you'll pick up something you can use later to help you through your unhappy life.

I think some of you are just poor sports......can't take a little freindly critizism............I was just agast when I first opened this site and saw all of the self pitty and crying over spilt milk. I felt the best action to take when you find someone has lied and taken advantage of you is to fight back. But all I heard and am still hearing is what thet big bad church did to some of you who should have known better. The child abuse is a completely different matter and I am as horrified as any of you.

Quantum HAS A HEART

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LET THE EVIDENCE BEGIN

by QUANTUM in

jw
friends

please refer to the following.

http://farms.byu.edu/free/transcripts/index.html.

begin with daniel peterson's evidences for the book of mormon.

QUANTUM

CYRANO:

I think you have a few things mixed up.

The wts has been around for 125 years with a current active membership in the USA of less than o million...was of their converts are in third world countries...why is that?...because educated intellegent people see right through their smoke screen. on the other hand The LDS church has around 4 million active members in this country and not too much older than the wts. If you were to examine the education of the average LDS you will find it is the highest of all churches per capita....the WTS...is the least educated...does this say anything about the kind of people who have fallen into such a false organization AS THE LDS CHURCH?

your nose is blocking you eyesight

QUANTUM ..HE WHO INSTRUCTS

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LET THE EVIDENCE BEGIN

by QUANTUM in

jw
friends

please refer to the following.

http://farms.byu.edu/free/transcripts/index.html.

begin with daniel peterson's evidences for the book of mormon.

QUANTUM

d8ta......this is a serious discussion ...if you want to talk about fair tails and comic books go start your own thread...see if anyone wants to talk to you!

QUANTUM A RIGHTEOUS JUDGE!!!

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LET THE EVIDENCE BEGIN

by QUANTUM in

jw
friends

please refer to the following.

http://farms.byu.edu/free/transcripts/index.html.

begin with daniel peterson's evidences for the book of mormon.

QUANTUM

My dear nancee park:

I can't think of a church which does not condemn the followers of religions not theirs to destruction or hell. The LDS church is alone in teaching everyone is loved by the same GOD who is our Heavenly Father. Everyone will receive salvation unless you just plain don't want it. Why this incredible ridiculing of a faith that gurantees the hopeless not only hope but assurances.

In the BOM it says that Christ would be born in Jerusalem. This was one of those things the church was often ridiculed for. Thats why it was so nice that when archeologists discovered ancient writings ( which can be produced) that during the time of Lehi (600 bce) the area around the principle city of Jerusalem was called Jerusalem. just as often times we refer to portland as where we live even though we live in a smaller city next to portland.

The Temple is not a secret place but sacred...anyone is admitted who willingly abides by the doctrines of the church.

Again the adding to the book argument has become a tiring issue...this is one of those worn out things which never go away no matter how many times it is explained to the complete mental vaccuums.The book of revelation was not in the bible we have today. It was even written before some of the new testament books. It was talking about itself when it makes the statement of adding to it. It says the same thing in the book of deuteronomy. if we went along those lines we can do away with half of the old testament and all of the new.

QUANTUM...THE ONE WHO KNOWS

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LET THE EVIDENCE BEGIN

by QUANTUM in

jw
friends

please refer to the following.

http://farms.byu.edu/free/transcripts/index.html.

begin with daniel peterson's evidences for the book of mormon.

QUANTUM

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you need to lean a little more about the bible...only about 20% of people, places and events can be varified from history, and archeology........you would think that with several million hebrews trampsing around the Sainai desert that other peoples would be aware of them and make mention of them....no such thing has been found. Thousands of things can be mentioned regarding what is not said about the Bible. What is said is the important thing as is the case with The Book Of Mormon.

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LET THE EVIDENCE BEGIN

by QUANTUM in

jw
friends

please refer to the following.

http://farms.byu.edu/free/transcripts/index.html.

begin with daniel peterson's evidences for the book of mormon.

QUANTUM

WELL, amazing......

you need to read more than one side of an issue. The validity to the Book Of Abraham is not in what someone said Smith was able or unable to do but the text itself which is now baffling non member scholars as they compare it to recently recovered ancient writings which agree with stupid old JOE Smith who don't know nuttin or is just a big bad fraud. name calling can't change the facts.

What about those young Mormon Missionaries.....up until they go on a mission few have any real in depth knowledge of the church or it's doctrine...but most have a conviction that the church is true which is confirmed by the end of their mission.

they have a specfic set of teachings they persue. The Lord nor the church is sending Bible scholars out to try and convince people by superior intellect of the scriptures thruth. WE teach that everyone has to seek GODS answer whether we teach a true or false docrine. Some questions are asked by people which the missionaries don't know or think they know. Some answer them wrong....the doctrines of the church have not change since the prophet first saw GOD and JESUS CHRIST in the grove of trees near his home in up state NY

Equating the American Indian with the Book Of Mormon Peoples is inaccurate and does not account for a host of other vital details. It is not certain, but it is commonly held by most Mormon scholarship that Lehi and his family landed in Mezoamerica just below Mexico and remained there for the entire saga of their history. Other previous migrations to the Americas are numerous and are not accounted for in the Book...some are.....The American Indian may have some of the blood of Lehi's decendants but that is pure speculation.

J. Smith was not Jesus Christ and never claimed superiority to HIM. He was given a gun after he entered the jail because the govenor who swore to protect him and his brother so a fair trial could conviene, skipped out of town so he could be assasinated. J. Smith was brought before judges and magistrates all of his life and was only convicted once for something equivalent to disturbing the peace..when he was around 18 years old.

QUANTUM IS A GREAT TEACHER he doesn't spell very well though

Edited by - QUANTUM on 11 July 2002 20:32:21

Edited by - QUANTUM on 11 July 2002 20:33:50

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LET THE EVIDENCE BEGIN

by QUANTUM in

jw
friends

please refer to the following.

http://farms.byu.edu/free/transcripts/index.html.

begin with daniel peterson's evidences for the book of mormon.

QUANTUM

The tanners are a poor and ridiculous source for slaming the church. Their false knowledge and statements have been uncovered and answered many years ago. No one except the completely ignorant accept their falacious writings.

AS I said...the church has never hidden anything of it's past.....were some Mormons racists...no doubt... Did Joseph smith try to adopt a black child...yes...she lived with them many years.....did he Run for President of the united states and supported freeing the slaves and had a workable plan to do so...yes.....Are the journel of discourses a completly accurate library for what was said and done ...no ..many of the things were writen by scribes which were recording things that J. Smith and others were saying at public and private occasions.....it is not the gospel...

QUANTUM THE UNDEFEATED!!!

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LET THE EVIDENCE BEGIN

by QUANTUM in

jw
friends

please refer to the following.

http://farms.byu.edu/free/transcripts/index.html.

begin with daniel peterson's evidences for the book of mormon.

QUANTUM

I believe you will find that the LDS church does not conceal or hide anything about itself.....you make acusations as though the church is as fraudulent as the one you escaped....I maintain it has held up to every attack that has ever been made against it... name calling is kids stuff and doesn't mean a thing.

Let's not forget.....the church you left which you say is false...which many of you promoted and did missionary work for....and converted many that are still in their.....should show a little more humility.....You your selves have proven your church to be false I have only agreed with you.....if I have pointed out other flaws in several of you...well I was always willing to take your retort.....but what you are showing now is revenge. Did your inprisonment in the WTS teach you nothing?

QUANTUM THE KIND!!!

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