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  The "Whole World" was flooded??

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  so, jehovah's witnesses and many other biblical literalists think that the "whole world" was flooded during noahs day.. they take the "accounts" in genesis literally.

  so that means that areas as far away as australia, russia, argentina, greenland, antarctica were all visited by noah and his family to gather animals and preach before it happened right??

  they then took everything back to the middle east to board the ark...uh huh.... yet, the same expression in the bible for the "whole world" is also used in the account about the "worldwide famine" in josephs day!

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  If you don’t like Moses’ explanation of past world events then look to Plato for another view point.

  From one myth to another. Plato’s Critias mentions the Atlantis fable.

  “Many great deluges have taken place during the nine thousand years, for that is the number of years which have elapsed since the time of which I am speaking; and during all this time and through so many changes, there has never been any considerable accumulation of soil coming down from the mountains, as in other places, but the earth has fallen away all round and sunk out of sight. The consequence is, that in comparison of what then was, there are remaining only the bones of the wasted body, as they may be called, as in the case of small islands, all the richer and softer parts of the soil having fallen away, and the mere skeleton of the land being left.”

  http://sacred-texts.com/cla/plato/critias.htm

  Plato is not mentioning the sinking of Atlantis in this portion of the story. Earlier in the story he is describing a local myth where there is a gradual loss of land over a great period of time. He might be describing the slow flooding of the Mediterranean after the land mass between Spain and Morocco broke loose. At some point in ancient history the Atlantic Ocean drained into the Mediterranean. Geologists agree that the flooding of the Mediterranean happened but there is doubt that it happened during man’s existence.

  
  

  You never know, some myths could have some sort of truth in them.
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  Time to remind JWs of this famous quote from CT Russell!

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
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  with the ever present issue of the society seeming to run out of money, and constantly asking the flock for more donations, maybe it is time to revive this quote!.

  the leaked financial dept videos that have done the rounds, clearly show the society is in desperate trouble financially.. so, where is the "almighty's hand"?

  where is his ability to provide funds?

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  Venus. In my experience most JW's who leave become atheists. Those that left were either stumbled or hurt by some sort of leadership counsel or discipline. Your statement is true and wise. Thanks for sharing.

  When religious leaders exploit the ignorant in the name of God (when God is commercially used by the religion) atheists appear denying the very basis the exploiters stand on. Thus exploiters are the cause, and atheism is the consequence—again an interesting situation that indirectly honors God who put in place the omnipresent Law of Cause and Effect
  
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  Helping my husband wake up, need advice.

  by Whynot in

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  my husband is dfed but he is a prime example of someone who was a puppet for the watchtower.

  i was able to wake him a little with the sex abuse scandal.

  he was an elder and is very familiar with those rules.

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  "And they kept doing bad in the eye's of Jehovah...they would also not tear down the high places...I kept sending prophets to correct them but they would not listen.,,I shall use the surrounding nations to punish them." - a gamut of scriptures from who knows where.

  The high places could be likened to the image of the Organization. They worship it more than God. The image of the organization is more important than protecting children. God does not need anyone to protect his image. You do the right thing and then he will be with you. When Israelite leaders rebelled against God he would no longer give them guiding counsel. The word of Jah would no longer be in the land. That sounds exactly like today. No new insights of what is to come.This board of past members are like the prophets and countries like Russia are the surrounding nations.
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  Why Do People Oppose Jehovah's Witnesses?

  by BlackSpirit in

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  jesus christ, the son of the most high god, jehovah has this to say: "if the world hates you, you know that it has hated me before it hated you.

  if you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own.

  now because you are no part of the world, but i have chosen you out of the world, for this reason the world hates you.

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  Now why did you have to go and swat that hornet's nest BlackSpirit? Now all these angry bugs are trying to sting everything in sight! Where's the smoke bomb to clear them out?
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  The story of my congregation in the last five years.

  by Crazyguy in

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  2. experiences

  let’s start with the good news for the congregation that is.

  two new sisters were added to the group a mother and her daughter.

  then the bad news.

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  A former congregation of mine had to merge with its sister congregation at the kingdom hall because there were too few members in each. Now they have too many elders in the one. A bunch of them had to lose their special titles.
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  Austria Begins Closing Mosques and Deporting Imams

  by cofty in

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  austria, a member of the eu since 1995, is a country of 8.8 million people with a muslim population of around 600,000 mostly turkish immigrants.

  in 2015 it passed an 'islam law' prohibiting foreign funding of religious groups and creating a duty for muslim organisations to have 'a positive fundamental view towards state and society'.. many mosques in austria have continued to receive money from turkish muslim organisations so the new right-wing government have decided to enforce the law.

  seven mosques have been identified for closure and 60 imams are to be either deported or refused visas.

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  Is it true? If someone converts to Islam you are given an Islamic sounding name? I found out while visiting a Muslim country that this was the case. Why can't the leadership be happy with the name they already have? My sources say, the name change is for other Muslim followers to know who to rat on when someone disobeys the Quran. Does this sound familiar? You're not speaking the pure language.
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  JW Parents in bad shape with no retirement.

  by blownaway in

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  my wife's parents are in very bad shape.

  they are both 2nd gen jws.

  my father in law worked for a large american manufacturing company in the 60s and early 70s.

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  I was told by an elder many years ago that I should invest in the 401k plan on my first job that had one. I said, "Isn't the end so near that we won't be needing a retirement savings?" He said, "You need to save for retirement just in case the paradise is way off in the distant future ." He's still in but he's too old to have elder duties anymore.
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  Religious Discrimination; now LEGAL

  by lastmanstanding in

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  newsflash.

  there are businesses that are now discriminating in their hiring practices based on the fact that you are a jw.. sure, you think i'm mad.

  but it's true.. the business circles have become acutely aware of the -not even 1 year old- decision in the industrial court where a jw ratted out a fellow jw and brought disrepute to the bank where they both worked.

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  Something similar happened to me. A confidential blood matter reached the CO and he was blabbing it to every Tom Dick and Harry at the Halls. Unbeknownst to him, he blabbed it to the source. That day, I knew this was a man unapproved by Jesus.
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  How does mankind know what happen before we were created??

  by James Mixon in

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  2. bible

  for example, "and god said, let there be light: and there was light.

  "a personal and vocal god said, "let there be light.

  "so god saw the light, and thought it good, but how did the priestly scribe know that he did?

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  I think some have said the account was an inspiration of Moses. He takes credit for the first 5 books of the bible.

  The movie "Noah" that came out a while ago suggested that he was inspired to write about the creation story. I believe the WT believes this version because they had an article about an ancient Genesis record being passed on from faithful person to faithful person. It's been a while since I read it. I'm not sure if they think Noah got the whole story downloaded into his brain. WT probably thinks it's more like this: Fallen Adam tells Seth. Assuming the creator had a 1on1 with Adam before the fall => Seth tells Enoch => Enoch tells Lamech => Lamech tells Noah => Noah tells Shem => Shem tells Abraham => Abraham tells Issac/Jacob => Jacob tells Levi => Levi has multiple offspring and it is passed on to Moses.

  I'm probably missing some in between people. Enoch may have been dead before Lamech. I can't remember.
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  countdown to darkness

  by waton in

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  if you want to experience the impact of an historic event, go and visit the next stark darkening, the eclipse in 2024. to be precise, ~1969 days away.

  the countdown also will take you, like an anti-daily text, through wt history as a retro prophecy a day for a year.

  ha ha.

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  1966 - I guess this would be for Sunday 5/6 countdown day event.

  1966 Fredrick Franz is quoted with saying the following statement.

  "Does it mean that God's rest day began in 4026? It could have. The ... book does not say it did not ... You can accept it or reject it ... Does it mean that Armageddon is going to be finished ... by 1975? It could! It could! All things are possible with God. Does it mean that Babylon the Great is going to go down by 1975? It could ... But we are not saying."

  This was F. Franz's uncertainty clause about the end happening in 1975. He was the vise president of the WT at the time. He should have said that there will be no talks allowed by anyone supporting that the end would come in 1975.

  Psalms 146:3 - Do not put your trust in princes or in humans, to whom no salvation belongs.

  I think the GB and FDS believe they are princes. Then Psalms 146:3 applies to them.