Posts by braincleaned

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Why not be totally free from it all?

by braincleaned in

so many of you here have suffered from the borg and it's twisted and ever-changing teachings.. some of us turned atheists, others hold on to jehovah god and his son jesus.. both have and still suffer from all the lies, the mind-control, the loss of individuality to conform to the cult.. may i offer a personal observation, for which i could be totally wrong, and would welcome rectification if i am.. as some of you know, i became an atheist long before i questioned the borg... which at first, i still considered a loving "mother".. my aha!

moment was thru my ardent personal study; and the issue i battled with was nothing else than god's character.. now, before i continue, please be aware that i have hated god until i was convinced he was a figment of the imagination and folklore in human literature.

many of you here may cringe at these words, and i do apologize if i seem to be insulting as i would hate to be guilty of that.

braincleaned

I would acknowledge in all honesty that I am preaching here.
I do it for the same reasons I did as a JW; because I sincerely believe everyone would be better off — in this case, without the Abrahamic God.
I have discussed before that I simply "don't know" that there is a superior intelligence that may have been the source of life.
However, as my OP argues, I KNOW it's no loving creator!
To say otherwise would be a grave portrayal of bad faith... and voluntary blinding of self in front of the observable evidence.

I have the passion of my convictions — and my convictions are open to change upon more complete information.
Anyone claiming to "know" truth and preemptively refuses to change ever, is a person oblivious to the ridicule they deserve.

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Why not be totally free from it all?

by braincleaned in

so many of you here have suffered from the borg and it's twisted and ever-changing teachings.. some of us turned atheists, others hold on to jehovah god and his son jesus.. both have and still suffer from all the lies, the mind-control, the loss of individuality to conform to the cult.. may i offer a personal observation, for which i could be totally wrong, and would welcome rectification if i am.. as some of you know, i became an atheist long before i questioned the borg... which at first, i still considered a loving "mother".. my aha!

moment was thru my ardent personal study; and the issue i battled with was nothing else than god's character.. now, before i continue, please be aware that i have hated god until i was convinced he was a figment of the imagination and folklore in human literature.

many of you here may cringe at these words, and i do apologize if i seem to be insulting as i would hate to be guilty of that.

braincleaned

LOL! Good analogy adamah! :D

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Why not be totally free from it all?

by braincleaned in

so many of you here have suffered from the borg and it's twisted and ever-changing teachings.. some of us turned atheists, others hold on to jehovah god and his son jesus.. both have and still suffer from all the lies, the mind-control, the loss of individuality to conform to the cult.. may i offer a personal observation, for which i could be totally wrong, and would welcome rectification if i am.. as some of you know, i became an atheist long before i questioned the borg... which at first, i still considered a loving "mother".. my aha!

moment was thru my ardent personal study; and the issue i battled with was nothing else than god's character.. now, before i continue, please be aware that i have hated god until i was convinced he was a figment of the imagination and folklore in human literature.

many of you here may cringe at these words, and i do apologize if i seem to be insulting as i would hate to be guilty of that.

braincleaned

Absolutely RayPublisher!
I would love to get the coversation going... I realize it's a touchy subject.
I also realize we need to deal anyway we can to survive the Borg. So my opinion and reasoning is from my vantage point.
Perspectives change from where everyone's vantage point is.

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Why not be totally free from it all?

by braincleaned in

so many of you here have suffered from the borg and it's twisted and ever-changing teachings.. some of us turned atheists, others hold on to jehovah god and his son jesus.. both have and still suffer from all the lies, the mind-control, the loss of individuality to conform to the cult.. may i offer a personal observation, for which i could be totally wrong, and would welcome rectification if i am.. as some of you know, i became an atheist long before i questioned the borg... which at first, i still considered a loving "mother".. my aha!

moment was thru my ardent personal study; and the issue i battled with was nothing else than god's character.. now, before i continue, please be aware that i have hated god until i was convinced he was a figment of the imagination and folklore in human literature.

many of you here may cringe at these words, and i do apologize if i seem to be insulting as i would hate to be guilty of that.

braincleaned

"But some seem to have an emotional need for the fuzzy, warm feeling that belief in an imaginary Sky-daddy gives them."

Love you Phizzy! You said it worse than I did! LOL!
LostGeneration, Phizzy said it all above. right?! ;)

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Why not be totally free from it all?

by braincleaned in

so many of you here have suffered from the borg and it's twisted and ever-changing teachings.. some of us turned atheists, others hold on to jehovah god and his son jesus.. both have and still suffer from all the lies, the mind-control, the loss of individuality to conform to the cult.. may i offer a personal observation, for which i could be totally wrong, and would welcome rectification if i am.. as some of you know, i became an atheist long before i questioned the borg... which at first, i still considered a loving "mother".. my aha!

moment was thru my ardent personal study; and the issue i battled with was nothing else than god's character.. now, before i continue, please be aware that i have hated god until i was convinced he was a figment of the imagination and folklore in human literature.

many of you here may cringe at these words, and i do apologize if i seem to be insulting as i would hate to be guilty of that.

braincleaned

So many of you here have suffered from the Borg and it's twisted and ever-changing teachings.
Some of us turned atheists, others hold on to Jehovah God and his son Jesus.

Both have — and still suffer — from all the lies, the mind-control, the loss of individuality to conform to the cult.

May I offer a personal observation, for which I could be totally wrong, and would welcome rectification if I am.

As some of you know, I became an atheist long before I questioned the Borg… which at first, I still considered a loving "mother".
My aha! moment was thru my ardent personal study; and the issue I battled with was nothing else than God's character.

Now, before I continue, please be aware that I have hated God until I was convinced he was a figment of the imagination and folklore in human literature.
Many of you here may cringe at these words, and I do apologize if I seem to be insulting — as I would hate to be guilty of that.
I am just sharing my perspective, and believe me, I have suffered immensely thru the process leading to this conclusion.
My strong bias was for Jehovah, and I have cut off some worldly friends at the time, simply for insulting my God.

Having said this, at one point, I had to face my cognitive dissonance.
I hope my sharing this opens up a door for others.
These are some of the points I had trouble with:

• If God is the creator of life and the Universe — why the cruelty in Nature?
What does the cruel natural Circle of Life say about God's character, since
he could have curbed the demography of species thru other means than bloody
killings and life feeding off other lives?

• We know that 98% of known species have now gone extinct — How does a perfect
creator justify such a waste of life?

• MAIN ISSUE for me is the claim that "God is Love" — while the above questions
clearly show that 'creation' in not engineered by love, but by a violent fight for survival.

These three points go much further in the analysis. But as pithy as this questioning is, it obligates all of us to face our cognitive dissonance… at least one can hope it does.

I will only hint on the contradictions believers face in rationalizing the morality of a god that boasts of jealousy and vengeance; also guilty of genocide and promoting/legalizing slavery. Nobody in their sane moral sense could excuse stoning a teen to death because — oh surprise — he is rebellious to his parents. Nobody should find it moral to stone to death gays. Yet, Jesus himself, boasted the perfection of the Mosaic Law in Matthew 5.
This makes me want to puke.

The day that started my hell as an apostate is when I told my wife, and the elders, that I was done finding excuses for Jehovah, who clearly identifies himself in the Bible as a monster — even Satan's rap sheet has less crimes to defend… in God's own book!

So this is a very succinct story of my atheism and freedom from the Borg.
Maybe, just maybe, it will hit a chord with those knowing deep in their heart that such a deity is more than a toxic superstition.

If you want to free yourself, FREE yourself.
Trusting Reality is better than keeping such a belief, just because we have invested too long in religion.

Love & Peace!
;)
Vince.            
_____

"You got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em,
Know when to walk away and know when to run."
~Kenny Rogers (the Gambler)

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Dawkins-The Greatest Show on Earth

by KateWild in

as many may be aware.

i don't like the man.

but i have chosen to review the first chapter of his book.. chapter 1... only a theory?.

braincleaned

It seems Dawkins is being dissed for his character rather than his work. Sad really...

I personally feel his character to be charming.

HOWEVER — what all you Dawkin's critics forget, is that he NEVER intended to dispute religion!
For you new ones, it may seem like he has been antireligious forever. NOT SO!
For those like me who have been following him, it is baltently apparent that his militant atheism was born from how he has been dragged in the mud by theists!!!
His 'evangelizing atheism' is a REACTION.
Self defense if you please.

So I would refrain from focusing on his apparent smugness, and concentrate on his work and logical arguments.

* I have seen him humbly acknowledge his mistakes, in particular with counter arguments from Krauss — that became his friend in the process.

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Religion vs. Spirituality

by Oubliette in

religion is for people who are scared to go to hell.

spirituality is for people who have already been there.

- bonnie raitt .

braincleaned

I claim to be a spiritual atheist. The universe and the awesome qualities of Nature itself inspire me spiritually.
I have contempt for all religion and theism precisely because it makes Reality something vulgar.

The gods of our human literature & folklore have masked the Natural beauty of the Universe, and the curiosity needed to discover it.
It is time to throw all this ignorant BS of old in the trashcan of toxic superstitions.

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John Cedar Confronts his Jehovah's Witnesses Elder Father on the UN/NGO scandal

by Scott77 in

my father (who is an elder) hasnt been abusive, but he has reaffirmed that he will be shunning us the moment things become official.

we spent a few days vacation together in picturesque northern croatia before i sat him down and attempted to explain my position.

after i revealed the information on the un/ngo scandal to dad by showing him newspaper articles from 2001, he was initially nauseous and didnt want to hear any more.

braincleaned

When your only identity is your religion you can't UNbecome who you are even if it is a false identity.

Yes! Well resumed.

I will add that it proves that people like Cedar's dad identify more as a JW than a father... as demanded by Christ himself.

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10,000 year old spear point found in FL - man is only 6,000 years old?

by Comatose in

http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/16/us/florida-spring-artifacts/index.html?hpt=hp_c2.

as evidence piles up, will we reach a tipping point where people begin accepting the age of humans existence?.

he described as "phenomenal" the preservation of the finds, whose location as many as 5 feet deep in oxygen-free sediment had protected them from decay.. they include a suwannee projectile point -- a spear point -- whose estimated age of 10,000 years puts it "right at the cusp of the end of the ice age," arbuthnot said.

braincleaned

What is hard evidence when you have Faith? The invisible evidence is sooooo much more compelling!
Who needs Reality when you have a despotic yet loving god that you know is true precisely because he is invisible!

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Baptism is a risk says JW.org - New YouTube video

by RayPublisher in

i've been working on this one for a few weeks and it is finally done.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inmzhysxa-o.

here's the description from the youtube video:.

baptism is a risk!

braincleaned

Watched it yesterday... bravo! Well done and presented.
Made me squirm in my chair, because I was the victim of such push.
Thank you David Splane (our CO at the time)... UGH!