Posts by braincleaned

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Anyone else fake it?

by braincleaned in

when i got baptized in 1972 (13 years old) it was under the "lamp" book.. .

when asked the 2 questions standing up, i did not say "yes!

" i got immersed, but never dedicated my life to jehovah.. (not in prayer, not vocally hated the way i was imposed on i was a kid for christ's sake!).

braincleaned

I hear you... my family and my love from and for them made me stay for decades...

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Why not be totally free from it all?

by braincleaned in

so many of you here have suffered from the borg and it's twisted and ever-changing teachings.. some of us turned atheists, others hold on to jehovah god and his son jesus.. both have and still suffer from all the lies, the mind-control, the loss of individuality to conform to the cult.. may i offer a personal observation, for which i could be totally wrong, and would welcome rectification if i am.. as some of you know, i became an atheist long before i questioned the borg... which at first, i still considered a loving "mother".. my aha!

moment was thru my ardent personal study; and the issue i battled with was nothing else than god's character.. now, before i continue, please be aware that i have hated god until i was convinced he was a figment of the imagination and folklore in human literature.

many of you here may cringe at these words, and i do apologize if i seem to be insulting as i would hate to be guilty of that.

braincleaned

Okay. We will have to agree to disagree. I am convinced that your hearing Christ is thru the triggers you get from religious books.
Had you been Hindu, I'm sure you would have been hearing Brahma or Vishnu. But that's just an opinion.

I have to trust your words. And I do — I really think you do believe that Christ talks to you.
I don't doubt your conviction I only question your interpretation of this voice.

Respectfully. ;)

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Anyone else fake it?

by braincleaned in

when i got baptized in 1972 (13 years old) it was under the "lamp" book.. .

when asked the 2 questions standing up, i did not say "yes!

" i got immersed, but never dedicated my life to jehovah.. (not in prayer, not vocally hated the way i was imposed on i was a kid for christ's sake!).

braincleaned

When I got baptized in 1972 (13 years old) — it was under the "Lamp" book.

When asked the 2 questions standing up, I did not say "Yes!" I got immersed, but never dedicated my life to Jehovah.
(not in prayer, not vocally — hated the way I was imposed on — I was a KID for christ's sake!)
(this was before the 2nd question was one of allegeance to the Borg).

Did anyone else fake it?

*Later on, I did go on to pioneer etc... mind control got to me.

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Baptism is a risk says JW.org - New YouTube video

by RayPublisher in

i've been working on this one for a few weeks and it is finally done.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inmzhysxa-o.

here's the description from the youtube video:.

baptism is a risk!

braincleaned

I don't see the problem, as Ray himself explains in what way the WTS aknowledges between the lines the consequences (hence the risk) of child baptism.
And the point is to expose people like David Splane who gives the parents guilt-trips if their kid is not baptized. I know — in 1972 Splane pushed my dad to impose baptism on me.
I still hold a grudge... :(

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Why not be totally free from it all?

by braincleaned in

so many of you here have suffered from the borg and it's twisted and ever-changing teachings.. some of us turned atheists, others hold on to jehovah god and his son jesus.. both have and still suffer from all the lies, the mind-control, the loss of individuality to conform to the cult.. may i offer a personal observation, for which i could be totally wrong, and would welcome rectification if i am.. as some of you know, i became an atheist long before i questioned the borg... which at first, i still considered a loving "mother".. my aha!

moment was thru my ardent personal study; and the issue i battled with was nothing else than god's character.. now, before i continue, please be aware that i have hated god until i was convinced he was a figment of the imagination and folklore in human literature.

many of you here may cringe at these words, and i do apologize if i seem to be insulting as i would hate to be guilty of that.

braincleaned

Yes... that is true. Especially the "imagination" part... :D

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The Kingdom Hall as a "holy place": Is it scriptural?

by Island Man in

jehovah's witnesses implicitly regard kingdom halls as holy places.

both in talks and in literature, the kingdom hall is sometimes described as a "center of pure worship in the community".

kingdom halls are dedicated to jehovah, in immitation of the fact that solomon dedicated the temple to jehovah.

braincleaned

Good post Island Man!

OUTLAW, totally nailed it! LOL!

What annoyed me were congregations that had the Tetragrammaton framed at the entrance as if there was some holiness connected with it.

Yep blondie — JWs are THAT superstitious! LOL!
In the early 70's it was a fad putting the Tetragrammaton on their cars! Then the society said "No!" LOL! — it was the JW version of St. Christopher!!!

Island Man, you were right in the first place, I know MANY that consider it holy and a physical protection! Superstition at its best.

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Why not be totally free from it all?

by braincleaned in

so many of you here have suffered from the borg and it's twisted and ever-changing teachings.. some of us turned atheists, others hold on to jehovah god and his son jesus.. both have and still suffer from all the lies, the mind-control, the loss of individuality to conform to the cult.. may i offer a personal observation, for which i could be totally wrong, and would welcome rectification if i am.. as some of you know, i became an atheist long before i questioned the borg... which at first, i still considered a loving "mother".. my aha!

moment was thru my ardent personal study; and the issue i battled with was nothing else than god's character.. now, before i continue, please be aware that i have hated god until i was convinced he was a figment of the imagination and folklore in human literature.

many of you here may cringe at these words, and i do apologize if i seem to be insulting as i would hate to be guilty of that.

braincleaned

Thank you Finkelstein.

Indeed, old scripture is demonstrably ignorant of the knowledge we have now — this being proof that an all-knowing creator did not "inspire" such writings.
Furthermore, the claims of this "Loving god" are in total contradiction with observable evidence.

We need to evolve a little faster — because this nonsense is still crippling our progress.

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Why not be totally free from it all?

by braincleaned in

so many of you here have suffered from the borg and it's twisted and ever-changing teachings.. some of us turned atheists, others hold on to jehovah god and his son jesus.. both have and still suffer from all the lies, the mind-control, the loss of individuality to conform to the cult.. may i offer a personal observation, for which i could be totally wrong, and would welcome rectification if i am.. as some of you know, i became an atheist long before i questioned the borg... which at first, i still considered a loving "mother".. my aha!

moment was thru my ardent personal study; and the issue i battled with was nothing else than god's character.. now, before i continue, please be aware that i have hated god until i was convinced he was a figment of the imagination and folklore in human literature.

many of you here may cringe at these words, and i do apologize if i seem to be insulting as i would hate to be guilty of that.

braincleaned

I will respect your opinion Tec, and leave it at that — because I believe we have covered our different views on other threads, and we will probably stay on our positions.

I will just point out that Jesus and religion are related in that you would have never 'encountered' (and recognized) him without all the religious and cultural iconic references already available.
What I mean is that your description of Him, his character and message — all fit the religious christian standards.

To say God is Love and ignoring the obvious I stated in my OP, is repeating what the Bible says — a Religious book by any definition.

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Dawkins-The Greatest Show on Earth

by KateWild in

as many may be aware.

i don't like the man.

but i have chosen to review the first chapter of his book.. chapter 1... only a theory?.

braincleaned

BTW I gave you a friend request on FB, but I am not that good on it - Kate xx

Accepted my friend! ;)

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Why not be totally free from it all?

by braincleaned in

so many of you here have suffered from the borg and it's twisted and ever-changing teachings.. some of us turned atheists, others hold on to jehovah god and his son jesus.. both have and still suffer from all the lies, the mind-control, the loss of individuality to conform to the cult.. may i offer a personal observation, for which i could be totally wrong, and would welcome rectification if i am.. as some of you know, i became an atheist long before i questioned the borg... which at first, i still considered a loving "mother".. my aha!

moment was thru my ardent personal study; and the issue i battled with was nothing else than god's character.. now, before i continue, please be aware that i have hated god until i was convinced he was a figment of the imagination and folklore in human literature.

many of you here may cringe at these words, and i do apologize if i seem to be insulting as i would hate to be guilty of that.

braincleaned

If the atheist are right and this life is all there is, there is nothing I could or would do different.

Then you are a happy man... and a reasonable one in practice.

Plus I like to read which is cheap but time consuming.

Yep, we must be related! :)

Then he would decide God or no God.

This on the other hand, is not that easy.
Nobody decides to 'believe' anything. We can only decide what sources to trust, then believe or not those sources if their reasoning and logic makes sense to us, or not.
When I used to believe in the existence of God, it was because I was persuaded by my upbringing/environment and the sources I trusted to be true.
Now I have come to the conclusion that the Biblical god is just fantasy and folklore, because as I have opined in my OP, he makes no sense.