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  The true, unsung hero of the Bible....

  by Unlearn in

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  my undisputed hero of the bible is known by several names, depending on who you talk to...devil, satan, lucifer, etc.. read it, and you'll find that he was the only one who really stood up for you.. he asserted that you could make decisions for yourself...and told you the very real truth that, just because the piece of meat in your chest stops thumping, you positively do not 'die'.. he was your hero.

  he stood up to a daddy-maniac and said, 'just because you made us doesnt mean you have the right to tell us what to do.

  i thought we were free?'.

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  soft+gentle

  sab seems to be violating lots of tenets of the Dawkins religion.

  Guys when will you realise he does not adhere to your faith as he has his own.
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  The true, unsung hero of the Bible....

  by Unlearn in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  my undisputed hero of the bible is known by several names, depending on who you talk to...devil, satan, lucifer, etc.. read it, and you'll find that he was the only one who really stood up for you.. he asserted that you could make decisions for yourself...and told you the very real truth that, just because the piece of meat in your chest stops thumping, you positively do not 'die'.. he was your hero.

  he stood up to a daddy-maniac and said, 'just because you made us doesnt mean you have the right to tell us what to do.

  i thought we were free?'.

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  soft+gentle

  oops sorry double post
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  The true, unsung hero of the Bible....

  by Unlearn in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  my undisputed hero of the bible is known by several names, depending on who you talk to...devil, satan, lucifer, etc.. read it, and you'll find that he was the only one who really stood up for you.. he asserted that you could make decisions for yourself...and told you the very real truth that, just because the piece of meat in your chest stops thumping, you positively do not 'die'.. he was your hero.

  he stood up to a daddy-maniac and said, 'just because you made us doesnt mean you have the right to tell us what to do.

  i thought we were free?'.

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  soft+gentle

  lol - NC

  please see my post above - 596 Paras 1 & 4. (cut and paste is being temperamental today)
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  The true, unsung hero of the Bible....

  by Unlearn in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  my undisputed hero of the bible is known by several names, depending on who you talk to...devil, satan, lucifer, etc.. read it, and you'll find that he was the only one who really stood up for you.. he asserted that you could make decisions for yourself...and told you the very real truth that, just because the piece of meat in your chest stops thumping, you positively do not 'die'.. he was your hero.

  he stood up to a daddy-maniac and said, 'just because you made us doesnt mean you have the right to tell us what to do.

  i thought we were free?'.

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  soft+gentle

  this sounds like an article of faith NC

  There is nothing about atheism that motivates one to do good or bad

  Also the way you depict believers sounds quite superstitious and demonising - as if you are coming from a position of ignorance or feigned ignorance. (hope you don't mind me saying so)

  edit: I vote for barbequed atheist this weekend
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  The true, unsung hero of the Bible....

  by Unlearn in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  my undisputed hero of the bible is known by several names, depending on who you talk to...devil, satan, lucifer, etc.. read it, and you'll find that he was the only one who really stood up for you.. he asserted that you could make decisions for yourself...and told you the very real truth that, just because the piece of meat in your chest stops thumping, you positively do not 'die'.. he was your hero.

  he stood up to a daddy-maniac and said, 'just because you made us doesnt mean you have the right to tell us what to do.

  i thought we were free?'.

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  soft+gentle

  I want to clarify - who and what are you replying to newchapter? If you are replying to me and not someone else then what you are promoting sounds like magical thinking. although I don't mind so long as you are aware it is not that different from what you condemn in others
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  The true, unsung hero of the Bible....

  by Unlearn in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  my undisputed hero of the bible is known by several names, depending on who you talk to...devil, satan, lucifer, etc.. read it, and you'll find that he was the only one who really stood up for you.. he asserted that you could make decisions for yourself...and told you the very real truth that, just because the piece of meat in your chest stops thumping, you positively do not 'die'.. he was your hero.

  he stood up to a daddy-maniac and said, 'just because you made us doesnt mean you have the right to tell us what to do.

  i thought we were free?'.

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  soft+gentle

  picking up on the interesting discussion between sab and lowkeysmith (btw atheists seem to love rephrasing sentences to obfuscate and deflect as much as they can from the issue at stake)

  lawlessess and the part it plays in atheism and science is often conveniently ignored by fundamentlist atheists like richard dawkings who himself believes in the very magical thinking he condemns in religions - his version is - Progress and the human ability to improve themselves without limit- I have just been re-reading the god delusion). this sort of magical thinking ignores the lawlessnesses committed by science and the secular state. Don't get me wrong - I am not against science and secularity - but when a scientist promotes one sided ideas then is he any different from the religious fundies he condemns?

  An honest look at science and secularity reveals its underbelly- biological weapons, mass destruction, hatred and demonisation of other people (the religious particularly) our inability to feed ourselves etc. Magical thinking cannot tolerate its own other face and what it gives birth to.

  Religion has also caused war, misery and hatred but to focus exclusively on this without giving credit for the good that it has also done smacks of fundamentalism imo. Non fundamentalist religion can and often does hold a mirror up to itsself keeping suffering and injustice in a direct interface and this has spawned numerous breakthroughs that have been beneficial for all kinds of life.
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  The true, unsung hero of the Bible....

  by Unlearn in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  my undisputed hero of the bible is known by several names, depending on who you talk to...devil, satan, lucifer, etc.. read it, and you'll find that he was the only one who really stood up for you.. he asserted that you could make decisions for yourself...and told you the very real truth that, just because the piece of meat in your chest stops thumping, you positively do not 'die'.. he was your hero.

  he stood up to a daddy-maniac and said, 'just because you made us doesnt mean you have the right to tell us what to do.

  i thought we were free?'.

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  soft+gentle

  how is aguest doing these days? please give her my love if you are in contact with her tec.

  sab, the I ching sounds fascinating. looked it up on wiki and am going to put it on my must read list.
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  A heart-wrenching comment from the JW survey...

  by cedars in

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  i've just received this comment from a country in the south china sea.

  i'd rather not be more specific than that.. the english is poor, but the message is heart-wrenching.

  any who question whether ordinary publishers wrestle with doubts need only read this message.

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  soft+gentle

  such a brave devout man and how cruel and uncaring the society is to such ones
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  A heart-wrenching comment from the JW survey...

  by cedars in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've just received this comment from a country in the south china sea.

  i'd rather not be more specific than that.. the english is poor, but the message is heart-wrenching.

  any who question whether ordinary publishers wrestle with doubts need only read this message.

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  soft+gentle
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  The true, unsung hero of the Bible....

  by Unlearn in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  my undisputed hero of the bible is known by several names, depending on who you talk to...devil, satan, lucifer, etc.. read it, and you'll find that he was the only one who really stood up for you.. he asserted that you could make decisions for yourself...and told you the very real truth that, just because the piece of meat in your chest stops thumping, you positively do not 'die'.. he was your hero.

  he stood up to a daddy-maniac and said, 'just because you made us doesnt mean you have the right to tell us what to do.

  i thought we were free?'.

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  soft+gentle

  sab

  Hello everyone, I have returned from out of town. S+G is a sorceress because she knew it was a BBQ without me actually saying it.

  lmao

  I agree that satan is no hero. He has a nihilistic, sneering view of mankind. How can he be a freedom fighter if Adam and Eve experienced a fall after his intervention? He offered a false freedom, one that did not rest real, life enhancing value and one that led to a soulless existence from which humans needed rescuing.