N.Drew, it was real question. I was not joking.
Hope is a quality too. so then like the mother is the father a quality as well as a person?
eidt: I somehow think you are going to say the father is goodness
this is an honest question on my part.
someone on this board asked me 'how do you know' a while ago and i really struggled with it.
in fact, it was a turning point for me.
N.Drew, it was real question. I was not joking.
Hope is a quality too. so then like the mother is the father a quality as well as a person?
eidt: I somehow think you are going to say the father is goodness
this is an honest question on my part.
someone on this board asked me 'how do you know' a while ago and i really struggled with it.
in fact, it was a turning point for me.
this is an honest question on my part.
someone on this board asked me 'how do you know' a while ago and i really struggled with it.
in fact, it was a turning point for me.
N.Drew if God is your sp father who is your mother?
my dad recently found out i wasn't coming to meetings and going out in field service.
he found an excuse to get me alone in his car and just lit into me about it.
he said that if i'm not going out in service that i'm not one of jehovah's witnesses and the brothers won't be able to trust me when the time comes to go undercover due to being attacked by the authorities.
definitely like the mafia
Ands its also a nice dramatic story designed to provoke anxiety, that when the time comes to go undercover no one will be able to trust you. Shouldn't they be telling stories that build trust in Jehovah and not in humans?
we have had many experiences with being gossiped about.
this is an honest question on my part.
someone on this board asked me 'how do you know' a while ago and i really struggled with it.
in fact, it was a turning point for me.
excuse the blank post - I cann't even edit it - gremlins
N.Drew
I want to take issue with these statements of yours if you don't mind
Let's please just say that we have found something that you have not found. I do not believe that it is wrong that you have not found what I have found. |
Most of us have been believers - so we have found what you have found. It is just that atheists are prepared to lose what they had found and gone on to find other things. As jesus said seek and you will find. He didn't say seek find and keep - at least I don't think he did - but if I remember correctly he did say keep on seeking (wibble)
But I appreciate that you are responding to snares and racket
this is an honest question on my part.
someone on this board asked me 'how do you know' a while ago and i really struggled with it.
in fact, it was a turning point for me.
this is a long rant.
hope this is of interest to someone... .
question 22: cosmology: a circle or sphere?
circle and sphere don't mean the same thing. Most ancients when they referred to the earth as a circle meant disc - whilst the sky formed an oven like or tentlike dome/structure.
this is an honest question on my part.
someone on this board asked me 'how do you know' a while ago and i really struggled with it.
in fact, it was a turning point for me.
browsing through this topic I found some interesting nuggets of wisdom. my own thoughts are that if God can enable one to escape fr om I and the tyranny of only focusing on one person as though all thoughts and feelings stem from the I ( when he only reflects me ), then I would support anyone saying they believe in God (although God can become an I . I think jehovahs witnesses focus on I all the time. Their conception of God is more to do with me and this is what results in sterility imo. Whereas putting "genetics and environment" (taking this from one of your posts on this thread, stillthinking) in an interface force one to constantly dismantle solely I and escape from its tyranny.
and stillthinking, you are definitely right in suggesting that there is more - there will always be more
i have been on this site daily, almost from its beginning, since i left the jws in 2001, but i have been more of a reader than a poster, as you can see from my post count.
i know few here know me, although i know many of you through reading your posts.
maybe it is not right to ask for support, when i generally stay quietly in the background of this forum, but i want only to speak a human misery of the deepest kind.
I'm truly sorry for your loss, Truman.
this is my first post on this forum, though it feels like i already know some of you here.
i have been lurking for a couple of months now, and i must say, there honestly seems to be more love and respect here than any forum i have ever seen on any forum of any kind.
i am 25 years old, married 3 years to my wonderful wife who is 22. we had a somewhat classic jw upbringing... which i now know has been our biggest problem.
captain obvious - welcome
give your wife time. Part of our makeup is to follow rituals. So it isn't just the mind that is involved, it is the whole person. I would suggest an holistic approach. A suggestion is to do more non jw things that you both enjoy together.