wannabefree - If that is what you think, it will fail. This is Jehovah's organisation and there is no where else to go. Many will rather wake up to be more spiritually active.
mankkeli
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FADERS YOUR DAYS ARE NUMBERED - BELIEVE IT OR NOT!.
by mankkeli into onthewayout, 00dad, cedars and other reknowned faders.
reports have reached patterson that faders are much more dangerous than those disfellowshipped.
their reasons for fading are no longer new to the gb.
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FADERS YOUR DAYS ARE NUMBERED - BELIEVE IT OR NOT!.
by mankkeli into onthewayout, 00dad, cedars and other reknowned faders.
reports have reached patterson that faders are much more dangerous than those disfellowshipped.
their reasons for fading are no longer new to the gb.
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mankkeli
To OnTheWayOut, 00DAD, Cedars AND Other reknowned faders
Reports have reached patterson that faders are much more dangerous than those disfellowshipped. Their reasons for fading are no longer new to the GB. Those men are not fools, they now know that faders have lost faith and they can ruin the influence of the holy spirit even arround their beloved ones who are JW. The GB are bent on doing everything possible to identify threats against their organisation and PLANS ARE UNDERWAY TO ENSURE THAT even in future they won't only stop at disfellowshipping.
Even if you think you can fade on health reasons, In future, medical reports MUST be provided to the service committee, and while at home you MUST be connected by telephone which would be arranged and constantly monitored by the sound overseer to ensure that you fully benefit from spiritual provisions. It would no longer be a joke. If you are in, you are in and when you are out, you are casted. No messing arround.
THIS IS NOT A THREAT, IT IS A WAKE UP CALL. Start devising a new strategy.
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Has anyone gotten reinstated and faded as soon as they could ?
by Pitchess Co-Gen ini'm think about doing this trick to get reinstated, and quit.
i have since moved 75 miles north of los angeles, so i'm not going back to the congregation that disfellowshipped me in the first place.
i'm just doing this for my family.
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mankkeli
00DAD - Lets see if I'm believable or not, time will tell.
OnTheWayOut - I'll advise you devise a new strategy for your fading, the days of hiding under the pretext of fading in order to keep relationship intact with your loved ones will soon be gone.
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Has anyone gotten reinstated and faded as soon as they could ?
by Pitchess Co-Gen ini'm think about doing this trick to get reinstated, and quit.
i have since moved 75 miles north of los angeles, so i'm not going back to the congregation that disfellowshipped me in the first place.
i'm just doing this for my family.
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mankkeli
If they faded, they will still be considered "disfellowshipped". New rules will soon be published to reinforce this stance. Watch out!. We are always happy to embrace jehovah's loving kindness on arrangements established towards maintining the purity of the christain congregation.
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Why Some Suffer Spiritual Shipwreck
by mankkeli inthis was taken from the 1999 wt, 7/15.. .
when paul warned of experiencing shipwreck, he had in mind some who had thrust aside their good conscience and had lost their faith.
(1 timothy 1:19) among them were hymenaeus and alexander who fell into apostasy, deviating from the truth and speaking abusively.
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mankkeli
Found Sheep - Just teasing you and by the way, I'm also happily married
OUTLAW - It is obvious you need to be busy, you seem very idle. Send me your house address and full name through PM, I can send an S-43 to the canadian bethel, two brothers can be consulted to resume a study with you and you can join the ranks of 30-hour auxillary pioneers next summer, I'm definitely sure this will keep you very busy and you can faithfully resign from your awkward activities on JWN.
Give it a try and send those infos by PM. Jehovah will definitely bless the efforts.
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Why Some Suffer Spiritual Shipwreck
by mankkeli inthis was taken from the 1999 wt, 7/15.. .
when paul warned of experiencing shipwreck, he had in mind some who had thrust aside their good conscience and had lost their faith.
(1 timothy 1:19) among them were hymenaeus and alexander who fell into apostasy, deviating from the truth and speaking abusively.
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mankkeli
sd-7 - I'm sure you wont agree with me, but if God had used men before, I definitely see no reason why He couldn't be using men noowadays, By the way, He doesn't change.
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Why Some Suffer Spiritual Shipwreck
by mankkeli inthis was taken from the 1999 wt, 7/15.. .
when paul warned of experiencing shipwreck, he had in mind some who had thrust aside their good conscience and had lost their faith.
(1 timothy 1:19) among them were hymenaeus and alexander who fell into apostasy, deviating from the truth and speaking abusively.
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mankkeli
Found Sheep - Don't be shy, just be true to yourself, you will need a copy I can see you have been arround and by the way you won't be reprimanded for it.
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Why Some Suffer Spiritual Shipwreck
by mankkeli inthis was taken from the 1999 wt, 7/15.. .
when paul warned of experiencing shipwreck, he had in mind some who had thrust aside their good conscience and had lost their faith.
(1 timothy 1:19) among them were hymenaeus and alexander who fell into apostasy, deviating from the truth and speaking abusively.
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mankkeli
Found Sheep - I can send an uncut copy of the pics to you, just request through a PM. Delivery will be free, I won't charge you for it.
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Why Some Suffer Spiritual Shipwreck
by mankkeli inthis was taken from the 1999 wt, 7/15.. .
when paul warned of experiencing shipwreck, he had in mind some who had thrust aside their good conscience and had lost their faith.
(1 timothy 1:19) among them were hymenaeus and alexander who fell into apostasy, deviating from the truth and speaking abusively.
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mankkeli
Shades of Grey - If you claim christ is the mediator and He is all we need for salavtion, why then did He entrust Peter ( a human) with the key to the kingdom?, why should peter be needed anyway after christ's departure. Let me quote the words of our lord jesus christ here and explain the reasons for handling the figurative key over to him
What were “the keys” entrusted to Peter?
Matt. 16:19, JB: “I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven: whatever you bind on earth shall be considered bound in heaven; whatever you loose on earth shall be considered loosed in heaven.”
In Revelation, Jesus referred to a symbolic key used by himself to open up privileges and opportunities to humans
Rev. 3:7, 8, JB: “Here is the message of the holy and faithful one who has the key of David, so that when he opens, nobody can close, and when he closes, nobody can open: . . . I have opened in front of you a door that nobody will be able to close.”
Peter used “keys” entrusted to him to open up (to Jews, Samaritans, Gentiles) the opportunity to receive God’s spirit with a view to their entering the heavenly Kingdom
Acts 2:14-39, JB: “Peter stood up with the Eleven and addressed them in a loud voice: ‘Men of Judaea, and all you who live in Jerusalem . . . God has made this Jesus whom you crucified both Lord and Christ.’ Hearing this, they were cut to the heart and said to Peter and the apostles, ‘What must we do, brothers?’ ‘You must repent,’ Peter answered ‘and every one of you must be baptised in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. The promise that was made is for you and your children, and for all those who are far away, for all those whom the Lord our God will call to himself.’”
Acts 8:14-17, JB: “When the apostles in Jerusalem heard that Samaria had accepted the word of God, they sent Peter and John to them, and they went down there, and prayed for the Samaritans to receive the Holy Spirit, for as yet he had not come down on any of them: they had only been baptised in the name of the Lord Jesus. Then they laid hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit.” (Verse 20 indicates that Peter was the one taking the lead on this occasion.)
Acts 10:24-48, JB: “They reached Caesarea the following day, and Cornelius [an uncircumcised Gentile] was waiting for them. . . . Peter addressed them . . . While Peter was still speaking the Holy Spirit came down on all the listeners.”
If christ is all we need, why does Peter needs to bind anything here on earth, why was authority given to him? and what evidence do we have to prove otherwise that similar authority wasn't given to the genius in brooklyn since 1919 to care for the masters assets here on earth?
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Why Some Suffer Spiritual Shipwreck
by mankkeli inthis was taken from the 1999 wt, 7/15.. .
when paul warned of experiencing shipwreck, he had in mind some who had thrust aside their good conscience and had lost their faith.
(1 timothy 1:19) among them were hymenaeus and alexander who fell into apostasy, deviating from the truth and speaking abusively.
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mankkeli
sd-7 . But note this, faithfulness till the end is what counts afterall.
sabastious - Look up the thread and respond meaningfully, did you jump out of the ship because you thought you could swim alone or some other fleshly tendencies drove you out?.