I say that since the US was attacked on 911, we have the right to defend ourselves wherever we think terrorism grows.
Here here!!!
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103France & Germany Take the Same Stance
by MrMoe inhttp://www.cnn.com/2003/world/meast/01/22/sproject.irq.schroeder.chirac/index.html
france, germany stand firm on iraq.
wednesday, january 22, 2003 posted: 12:20 pm est (1720 gmt).
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France & Germany Take the Same Stance
by MrMoe inhttp://www.cnn.com/2003/world/meast/01/22/sproject.irq.schroeder.chirac/index.html
france, germany stand firm on iraq.
wednesday, january 22, 2003 posted: 12:20 pm est (1720 gmt).
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MrMoe
Um hello!!! World Trade Center? Um hello?!?!?! Knock knock knock... anybody home? Saddam and Osama, they are on speaking terms, right?
The stupidty of this grows more and more and more. Argue it all you want, Saddam doesn't fork over what he has, war is going down anyhow. Your illogical argument isn't going to change anything.
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France is a "Pain in the Ass"
by JH ini changed my topic to this:.
why does france always go against britain and us policies?
should we still consider france as an ally?
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And who the heck says Saddam WON'T ATTACK US!!! He is all buddy buddy with Osama, remember him? You know, the guy who was the mastermind behind the twin towers fiasco? What if they get a hold of what Saddam has, or better yet - what if they all become big blood brothers? Then what? Um hello, we were ATTACKED once already??!!! Enter in WMD and you better treasure the thought of the skin being burned off your body.
The ignorance and lack of logic for WHY America should NOT just sit back and let Saddam break the rules AMAZES me.
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France & Germany Take the Same Stance
by MrMoe inhttp://www.cnn.com/2003/world/meast/01/22/sproject.irq.schroeder.chirac/index.html
france, germany stand firm on iraq.
wednesday, january 22, 2003 posted: 12:20 pm est (1720 gmt).
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MrMoe
Please!!!! Geesh, let's all crawl under rocks and pretend the world will always be OK and everything will somehow take care of itself.
Rules are rules. You break them, you pay the penalty. Period.
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France is a "Pain in the Ass"
by JH ini changed my topic to this:.
why does france always go against britain and us policies?
should we still consider france as an ally?
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Xander -- I bet that is what the little Jeish family said several years before Hitler gassed them all. Of the guy said the morning he was killed when the twin towers went down.
How soon we forget.
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France & Germany Take the Same Stance
by MrMoe inhttp://www.cnn.com/2003/world/meast/01/22/sproject.irq.schroeder.chirac/index.html
france, germany stand firm on iraq.
wednesday, january 22, 2003 posted: 12:20 pm est (1720 gmt).
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MrMoe
Why war is even necessary ... (again, something I said on another forum - allow me to repeast myself.) I used to think war wasn't necessary. I used to think peace was the only option. I was a bit more dublike back then, and a lot more clouded in my judgment. What type of society would we become without rules? Without limitations? What type of society would we become if people or governments broke rules, sanctions, and regulations and were allowed to remain without punishment? If your family and friends we attacked (or even under threat of being attacked,) would you not defend them? And what if you knew in the very area where you lived or a few blocks over there was a huge underground ring of persons creating illegal weapons, including ones of a biological nature that could do such horrendous things to you no chemical could be conceived of doing? Would you sit back and do nothing? Would you say "who cares if the justice department steps in? I don't want to make waves after all?" NO!!!! You would have an opinion!!!! You would want somebody to do something!!! You may even be inclined to take action yourself. So, Saddam is far away. So Saddam does not live in our country. We as humans have a very bad habit, living inside our shells. People accuse Americans of not being aware of the outside world. HA! We are very aware of many things. Did you know Saddam has the option to snuff out you and/or your family within 72 hours? So shall we WAIT for him and other governments and political rulers like him to create and maintain such weapons of mass murder? so you sleep good at night, good for you! So your life is not in immediate danger, good for you! Guess what. Back not so long ago, there was a Jewish family, just like yours, that was gassed by the nazis. Think of that. To say everything is fine now may be ok, so be it. Maybe you are not American, maybe the country where you live wasn't attacked last year by terrorists. Maybe that could change. Saying it wouldn't is the same as an Ostrich sticking their head in the sand. Rules my friends - they are rules. If there is no punishment for not obeying the rules, the world would be in utter chaos. I rest my point.
Edited by - MrMoe on 22 January 2003 16:18:33
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France & Germany Take the Same Stance
by MrMoe inhttp://www.cnn.com/2003/world/meast/01/22/sproject.irq.schroeder.chirac/index.html
france, germany stand firm on iraq.
wednesday, january 22, 2003 posted: 12:20 pm est (1720 gmt).
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MrMoe
Agreed agreed agreed.
Why belong to the United Nations if you don't back your boys up? Why f***ing bother? Might as well not belong, correct?
Why are guidelines set up if they aren't going to be followed through? The logic of this makes NO SENSE TO ME.
I hate war. I hate death. The though of war scares the crap out of me. I don't want it, but sometimes you have to do certain things, even if it isn't pretty. If somebody living next to me sold drugs or assult rifles, you better damn well believe I would do something about it. This is the same thing, just a grander scale. We cannot allow another freak to gain power like Hitler, and if we just sat back, many like him would pop up as technology grew stronger.
For France and Germany not to participate isn't going to change anything. If we go to war, we go to war. And the only person who can stop that is Saddam. Period.
Edited by - MrMoe on 22 January 2003 15:58:20
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France is a "Pain in the Ass"
by JH ini changed my topic to this:.
why does france always go against britain and us policies?
should we still consider france as an ally?
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dubla - that isn't naive, that is plain stupid. If he doesn't then why won't he let us see what he has.
Take this for an example:
A very well known gang of thugs has a car theft ring, as well as dealing in assult weapons and an array of street drugs. The NYPD issues a warrant to search a large warehouse owned by the said gang, in order to search for stolen vehicles, guns and drugs. The Gang refuses to allow them in, so the NYP says, "Oh, Ok -- hope you have a nice peachy afternoon, hope we didn't bother you." Stop the short bus folks, doesn't happen that way.
There is NO LOGIC on not following through the demand that Saddam show the proper officals what he has and fork over anything remotely along the lines of WMD. Are we using our brains here folks?
I am a peacemaker, I hate war. Loathe detest carnage in all it's forms. But sometimes you don't have any choice!!!!!
Edited by - MrMoe on 22 January 2003 15:51:39
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France is a "Pain in the Ass"
by JH ini changed my topic to this:.
why does france always go against britain and us policies?
should we still consider france as an ally?
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I said the following elsewhere, thinks it fits here also:
Those of you who don't want war:
Now tell me, do YOU think it is a good idea Saddam's ass sits on a wealth of biological weapons? Do YOU think it is a good idea he sits on nuclear weapons?
Anyhow, France will protest, try to make peace, but when the war does break out, in one way or another they WILL be involved, even if that means supplying medics.
We Americans may be looked at as bullys. We Americans may be nosy, but the US government keeps the playground safe so that the gangs with the big fat kids that steal the lunch money don't take over, and don't you forget it.Only reason war will break out is because Saddam refuses to allow inspectors see his weapons stash or fork over the crap he has. Do I want war? No, of course not. I don't care to see thousands of people die, regardless if they are Americans or those who reside in the Middle East. But Saddam simply cannot be allowed to chave the weapons he does. Do you know what kind of harm he could cause? Do you know what type of harm little pissy governments like his could cause if they were allowed to run around creating whatever weapons they wanted?
Cause and effect. The line has to be drawn somewhere. Otherwise somebody a hell of a lot worse than the United States could take over. Think Hitler.Edited by - MrMoe on 22 January 2003 15:36:38
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France & Germany Take the Same Stance
by MrMoe inhttp://www.cnn.com/2003/world/meast/01/22/sproject.irq.schroeder.chirac/index.html
france, germany stand firm on iraq.
wednesday, january 22, 2003 posted: 12:20 pm est (1720 gmt).
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MrMoe
Cause they are looking out for their own butts. They will say what they have to in order to save their own hides, but when it comes down to it, will tuck tail and run like yellow dogs. Makes me sick.