Posts by trailerfitter

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Which part of the bible prohibits blood consumption because it is bad for health??

by trailerfitter in

i have a couple of posts on here becuase this blood issue is unclear to me.

i was shown by my beloved that the blood contains the soul but does not mention the fact blood is bad for health.

does it say anywhere in the bible that blood is bad for health?

trailerfitter

Gary, she doesn't comment on it. Since she is Russian speaking for her first language she suddenly goes dumb and says she cannot explain about what the soul is in blood. I have to cover an issue then drop it for a while otherwise I don't get to see her. It's that WT defense mechanism that drives her. I did get her ministry leader to agree to explain issues to her instead of me but I got into a discussion about jealousy and how helpful the bible was in advising that jealous id bad for health. When I asked if god gets ill beause he is quite a self admitted jealous god she started to squirm and explain to me that it was a different kind of jealously. I need at leat a month between encounters with the dubs. ( even if they come around more often).

Hows your situation going?

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Really sad that JWs use medical issues as an excuse to refuse blood??

by trailerfitter in

i cannot get over the amount of arguements we get into about blood with my wife.

she is medically trained,.. but her thinking is now retarded by the watchtower mentality.

one thing recently i refused to do lately was print a magazine article for her which was about blood complications this was an article from the new scientist magazine.

trailerfitter

The ever changing opinions of the WTBTS....... They definitely are not medical experts and I have had some really heafty reading material shoved under my nose without any guidance to who the medical world interpret it. Thank you for the comments however this issue is far from over. I wonder why the issue of eating blood products is never covered?

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Really sad that JWs use medical issues as an excuse to refuse blood??

by trailerfitter in

i cannot get over the amount of arguements we get into about blood with my wife.

she is medically trained,.. but her thinking is now retarded by the watchtower mentality.

one thing recently i refused to do lately was print a magazine article for her which was about blood complications this was an article from the new scientist magazine.

trailerfitter

The ever changing opinions of the WTBTS....... They definitely are not medical experts and I have had some really heafty reading material shoved under my nose without any guidance to who the medical world interpret it. Thank you for the comments however this issue is far from over. I wonder why the issue of eating blood products is never covered?

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Really sad that JWs use medical issues as an excuse to refuse blood??

by trailerfitter in

i cannot get over the amount of arguements we get into about blood with my wife.

she is medically trained,.. but her thinking is now retarded by the watchtower mentality.

one thing recently i refused to do lately was print a magazine article for her which was about blood complications this was an article from the new scientist magazine.

trailerfitter

This was the issue when they cannonised the bible. Seen claims that there are many books not included in the bible because of their vaguemenss. I asked why the NWT left out the Apocrapha that had been in the KJV bible. The comment I recieved about the fact that it had strange stories that weren't relevent really put doubts in my mind about the way the bible had been put together. How can one story be irrelevent when the story of Jonah and the whale is really odd and un realistic.

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Read S. Hassan's Book: Do JW's really fit the cult mold?

by simon17 in

first time i got a chance to read his book, "combatting cult mind control" and was interested to see if jw's fell into the cult mold.

my opinion after carefully reading and having left the witnesses after almost 30 years is... no, they don't.

however, i would add that they wish they were but are simply too big and unwieldy to really pull it off.

trailerfitter

Being on the outside and knowing very little about the mind control techniques I will say most definately they use mind control and fear to control their members.. The words "Things are getting worse " is like a mantra I hear often. IF not a cult then they are a psuedo cult which is very much the same thing.

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Which part of the bible prohibits blood consumption because it is bad for health??

by trailerfitter in

i have a couple of posts on here becuase this blood issue is unclear to me.

i was shown by my beloved that the blood contains the soul but does not mention the fact blood is bad for health.

does it say anywhere in the bible that blood is bad for health?

trailerfitter

Thanks Cofty, I need to do ore research before presenting this to the JW in the family. I cannot see anything wrong with upstanding a principle however I see this campaign of showning how bad blood transfusions are ( perhaps falsely), is a smoke screen.

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Which part of the bible prohibits blood consumption because it is bad for health??

by trailerfitter in

i have a couple of posts on here becuase this blood issue is unclear to me.

i was shown by my beloved that the blood contains the soul but does not mention the fact blood is bad for health.

does it say anywhere in the bible that blood is bad for health?

trailerfitter

I have a couple of posts on here becuase this blood issue is unclear to me. I was shown by my beloved that the blood contains the soul but does not mention the fact blood is bad for health. Does it say anywhere in the bible that blood is bad for health? If so , where?.

I am under the impression that the comsumption of the blood is because the "soul" is contained within the blood, so is the "crime" in this case and this from biblical texts? I can understand from a bronze age beliefs that this would have been widely believed however taking blood fractions now in a modern day perspective is the same ,..............surely this disobeys biblical laws doesn't it??

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Really sad that JWs use medical issues as an excuse to refuse blood??

by trailerfitter in

i cannot get over the amount of arguements we get into about blood with my wife.

she is medically trained,.. but her thinking is now retarded by the watchtower mentality.

one thing recently i refused to do lately was print a magazine article for her which was about blood complications this was an article from the new scientist magazine.

trailerfitter

In the Bible, the soul is said to be in the blood because blood is so intimately involved in the life processes. (Le 17:11) But making the connection even more direct, the Bible says: "The soul of every sort of flesh is its blood." (Le 17:14). Is this right only or are there more issues that clearly mark out that blood can be contaminated therefor unsafe for use??

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Really sad that JWs use medical issues as an excuse to refuse blood??

by trailerfitter in

i cannot get over the amount of arguements we get into about blood with my wife.

she is medically trained,.. but her thinking is now retarded by the watchtower mentality.

one thing recently i refused to do lately was print a magazine article for her which was about blood complications this was an article from the new scientist magazine.

trailerfitter

So the issue is not consuming a soul or life force to sustain life, rather all the other things not mensioned in the bible that they refuse the blood???

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Really sad that JWs use medical issues as an excuse to refuse blood??

by trailerfitter in

i cannot get over the amount of arguements we get into about blood with my wife.

she is medically trained,.. but her thinking is now retarded by the watchtower mentality.

one thing recently i refused to do lately was print a magazine article for her which was about blood complications this was an article from the new scientist magazine.

trailerfitter

I cannot get over the amount of arguements we get into about blood with my wife. She is medically trained,.. but her thinking is now retarded by the Watchtower mentality. One thing recently I refused to do lately was print a magazine article for her which was about blood complications this was an article from The New Scientist Magazine. it was printed in 2008. After showing her the NHS blood collection service site talking about only using mainly parts of blood in treatment I was godsmacked that she didn't believe this was true. I think, since she works for the same orgainisation in the UK as a lowly auxilliary nurse then she has no right or knowledge to comment on thier collection service.

I got her to show me the passage in the bible which talks about forbidding blood however it is because the soul in contained in the blood that this is forbidden...Is this correct? Then if this is the case why are the JWs using every single excuse under the sun and quoting science to prove thier czse about refusing blood transfusions...