Posts by 00DAD

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Um....You Might Want To Hold Off On That Asian Seafood

by metatron in

jw
friends

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-01-19/meet-mike-most-radioactive-fish-ever-fukushima.

yikes!.

metatron.

Governing Body, Faithful slave, or who?

by Chariklo in

i have a question.

to most of you, this will seem elementary, and you'd think that after twenty months or so on this forum i'd know the answer, but i don't.

in this thread.

00DAD

Interesting question.

I was just thinking of starting a thread on that myself.

I've been thinking for a while now that there is one or more individuals that long ago recognized WTBTS as the cash cow that it is and slowly, deliberately began taking the reigns.

I suspect they are a cadre of accountants and/or lawyers deeply embedded in the upper eschelons of the WTBTS. Probably they work in such a way as to make the GB guys think they're running things when in actuality it these people behind the scenes pulling the strings. (You don't really think Stephen Lett is running things, do you? C'mon, that guy's dumber than a box of rocks!)

The lawyers clearly make the policies that protect the corporation at all costs with complete disregard for individuals in the religion. I suspect that any lawyer or lawyers at the helm would have to have someone in accounting in on the scam to skim off funds.

And of course, they can easily do whatever they want by invoking phrases like, "It's Jehovah's Organization ... we must keep it clean!"

Although it's fun to speculate, I doubt we'll ever really know who controls this beast. We're more likely to find out who really killed JFK first!

00DAD

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Watchtower - You Have Been Asked to Respond...

by headisspinning in

the watchtower has been invited to respond and comment on any aspect of the menlo park kingdom hall cases as discussed in the videos here:.

http://ex-jw.com/menlo-park-legal-advisor-tells-his-story.

their representatives can make contact by email at [email protected].

00DAD

Yeah, like that's gonna' happen!

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Hello

by sherry11 in

jw
friends

i have been lurking here for a few months now.

i did lurk a few years ago as well.

i would like to introduce myself.

00DAD

Welcome!

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A Message to Active Elders Lurking on JWN

by 00DAD in

there are really only a couple of reasons an active elder would be lurking here on jwn.. .

[if !supportlists]i. your ever growing doubts about the organization have led you here, or.

[if !supportlists]ii.

00DAD

Here is a partial quote from the Shepherd the Flock of God book regarding the issue of whether elders that are "witnesses" to alleged wrongdoing could also serve on the judiciall committee:

If the matter proceeds to step three, any elders who were witnesses in step two could serve only as witnesses in step three. They would not be used to serve on the judicial committee in step three. - STFOG, p. 68, para. 24

The context of this particular quote is concerning allegations of fraud or slander. The previous paragraph concluded:

The congregation would not consider forming a judicial committee unless the offended Christian had taken steps one and two of Matthew18:15, 16 and had initiated step three of Matthew 18:17. - (ibid)

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A Message to Active Elders Lurking on JWN

by 00DAD in

there are really only a couple of reasons an active elder would be lurking here on jwn.. .

[if !supportlists]i. your ever growing doubts about the organization have led you here, or.

[if !supportlists]ii.

00DAD

mamochan13, well they're not supposed to do that, but as I think we all know by now, the elders don't always follow their own rules.

Did you deny any wrong doing? According to their own not-always-consistent-rulebook, an elder cannot be both a judge AND a witness in a Judicial Hearing. They may be witnesses to something and confront an individual. If he confesses, then it's a moot point because they no longer need witnesses. It's only if a person denies wrongdoing that a JC needs witnesses. In that case, then in theory the elders that are witnesses would have to be recused from the JC and a new one formed.

All of that being said, I'll repeat: the elders don't always follow their own rules.

Sometimes they just make it up as they go along.

00DAD

PS - I would like to add a personal note: It is completely reprehensible that anyone, let alone men claiming to be Christians, would camp out in front of your house and look in your windows invading your privacy. That is shameful behavior, completely inexcusable. Sadly, it has happened many times to many people.

You'll never get an apology from them, but I'm sorry it happened to you.

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A Message to Active Elders Lurking on JWN

by 00DAD in

there are really only a couple of reasons an active elder would be lurking here on jwn.. .

[if !supportlists]i. your ever growing doubts about the organization have led you here, or.

[if !supportlists]ii.

00DAD

joyfulfader: out of curiosity, how can one be outed by this forum?

Good question. It's happedned though as many have commented. Even on this thread. Maybe we've posted a few too many details and someone so inclined comes here looking, puts the pieces together.

I agree you could deny it. But apparently even that doesn't always work. Those types of elders are cowards and hypocrites, but they can also be ruthless bastards when they're on a crusade.

joyfulfader: i am all about theocratic warfare in reverse.

Amen to that! They invented it, we perfected it!!!

Phizzy, you seem to be familiar with the interrogation techniques of the BOE. I hope you haven't had to deal with them.

Good advice to newbie faders: be careful what you post, avoid any personal details!

MsD, thanks, glad you approve!

wasblind, love your sense of humor girl! You know you're my favorite one!!!

kurtbethel, you raise a good point about the "two witness" rule. Probably if one elder printed out some posts and the other elders read it then they'd have three witnesses on the Judicial Committee. But then, as you pointed out, you could turn it on them and point out that they are all reading "apostate" writing!

This just made me think, if a person doesn't confess, then a JC needs at least two witnesses. The elders on the JC cannot also be the witnesses. So they'd have to form a new JC using the previous elders as witnesses. The "accused" could continue to deny, deny, deny and hammer home the point that the other elders are all guilty of reading "apostate literature."

Theocratic Warfare, just as joyfulfader recommended.

bigmac, great point, men gotta' man-up or hand 'em over!

whathappened, I'm glad you're not a lurking elder too! ... lol

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Anonymous Message (YouTube) to Jehovah's Witnesses: #OpWatchtower - January 18, 2013

by jwleaks in

january 18, 2013. latest message from anonymous on #opwatchtower by anoninsurrection.. 700mb of files available at par:anoia.main directory of files in zip format.

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00DAD

Nice!

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A Message to Active Elders Lurking on JWN

by 00DAD in

there are really only a couple of reasons an active elder would be lurking here on jwn.. .

[if !supportlists]i. your ever growing doubts about the organization have led you here, or.

[if !supportlists]ii.

00DAD

bumpin' it for someone special!

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Martial Arts?

by Godsendconspirator in

i have always had a love for martial arts (didn't know how to fight, just admire what the human body can do), but since jdub-land banned it, i just kinda forgot about it.

i admire nate quarry (an 'apostate' mma fighter) and i have been boxing for a year now.

i decided to switch over to muay thai.

00DAD

Tai Chi is often considered the "mother" of the martial arts in some quarters, just not as practiced by grandma down the street.

Check this out:

Tai Chi Fighting