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Posts by 00DAD
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26Victoria, Australia, Newspaper article: Child in Jehovah's Witness Court Bid
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://www.theage.com.au/victoria/child-in-jehovahs-witness-court-bid-20130217-2elcg.htmlchild in jehovah's witness court bid.
february 18, 2013barney zwartza traralgon child has clubbed his pocket money together with three others, paying $69.70 to launch a private criminal prosecution against the jehovah's witnesses.. the child, 11, who is due to give evidence on monday at the state inquiry into how the churches handled child sex abuse, wanted to force the church to comply with working with children laws.
after four hearings, to which church leaders did not send a representative, the church began complying and the office of public prosecutions intervened to discontinue the case.. the inquiry will also hear from anti-jehovah's witness campaigner steven unthank, a former member of the church who says he and his family were ostracised and persecuted after he tried to tackle child abuse.. his submission alleges the church and its incorporated body, the watchtower society, covered up criminal child abuse, including rape, sexual assault, death threats, blackmail and assault, across four states by ordained ministers and officers of the church.. advertisementthe victorian and civil administrative tribunal will hear a religious vilification complaint against the church by mr unthank in may, after the church said people who left the church, as he had, were ''mentally diseased''.. and the victorian health services commissioner is investigating a complaint by another former gippsland church member that a jehovah's witness chaplain was found alone without permission with a naked toddler in a room at latrobe regional hospital.. the child appearing today, who cannot be named, has asked the inquiry to determine whether the church's failure to get working with children checks between july 2008 and december 2011 amounted to criminal child abuse of all 6160 jehovah's witness children in victoria.. he asks why the government and police let the church ''get away with'' non-compliance, and whether the state will help file a class action against the church.. the submission suggests the 2000 jehovah's witnesses who worked with children were committing criminal offences each week.
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Trailer for 2013 Candace Conti / Rick Simons interview, now on YouTube
by cedars inhi guys.
i have uploaded the following trailer for a forthcoming series of interview videos.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8ebwpjm6wa.
the interview, which was filmed on 10th february 2013, was based on questions provided by posters from this forum, specifically from this thread.... .
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00DAD
Can't wait!
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Interesting Comment From an Active Elder
by DarioKehl ini was recently speaking to an elder "off the record" while helping him do some house repairs.
i have a comfortable enough relationship to speak openly with him about things, but am careful to disclose the extent of my disbelief in wt doctrine.
anyway, this guy wouldn't last a day in the mafia because he can't keep anything confidential.
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00DAD
Bobcat, thanks for sharing.
I would expect your experience would be similar for most, maybe all, that partake. From your perspective it was a well-reasoned, carefully thought out decision, not something you just did on a whim as the emblems were passed.
My comment was in reference to the OP Elder's statement. No doubt, from the point of view of others in a congregation when someone partakes for the first time it seems to come "out of the blue" to them. Your comment, " It was a shock to many, to be sure, " confirms that.
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History of JWN
by El_Guapo inhi guys,.
i was going through some old threads (love this site) and i came across someone mentioning in a post that this site started as gathering place for jw's and somehow became an "apostate" site.
lol .
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00DAD
Thank you Simon, Angharad and Lady Lee
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Interesting Comment From an Active Elder
by DarioKehl ini was recently speaking to an elder "off the record" while helping him do some house repairs.
i have a comfortable enough relationship to speak openly with him about things, but am careful to disclose the extent of my disbelief in wt doctrine.
anyway, this guy wouldn't last a day in the mafia because he can't keep anything confidential.
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00DAD
DarioKehl, Interesting conversation! Thanks for sharing.
Elder: ... maybe this younger batch on the GB are mostly Pharisees
Ya' think! Now if YOU said that, you would be in trouble.
Elder: ... in my experience, any time someone starts partaking out of the blue, it's only a matter of months before they become apostate
Is there another way to start partaking besides "out of the blue"? That actually is a silly comment. Anyone that starts partaking does it suddenly; one year they didn't, then they did.
DarioKehl: I was dumbfounded ..., how could he be so naiive about all the major changes ... ?
Dubs are trained to not pay too close attention, but to appear to be paying attention. The devil is in the details and will lead to apostasy.
You're on the money about it being mind-control. Once you see it, it's astounding to watch it work.
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Distrust and paranoia among faders
by cedars inhi guys.
i'm interested in knowing whether any other faders out there ever find themselves feeling a little paranoid about establishing contact with other faders or former jws, just in case the unthinkable happens and things turn sour.. personally, i'm now fairly comfortable with the idea that i will be disfellowshipped or disassociated within the next year or so.
i see it as inevitable, and an essential transition in order to do what i want to do with my life.
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History of JWN
by El_Guapo inhi guys,.
i was going through some old threads (love this site) and i came across someone mentioning in a post that this site started as gathering place for jw's and somehow became an "apostate" site.
lol .
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00DAD
Maybe we should just ask Simon.
I'm just sayin' is all!
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A Message to Active Elders Lurking on JWN
by 00DAD inthere are really only a couple of reasons an active elder would be lurking here on jwn.. .
[if !supportlists]i. your ever growing doubts about the organization have led you here, or.
[if !supportlists]ii.
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Distrust and paranoia among faders
by cedars inhi guys.
i'm interested in knowing whether any other faders out there ever find themselves feeling a little paranoid about establishing contact with other faders or former jws, just in case the unthinkable happens and things turn sour.. personally, i'm now fairly comfortable with the idea that i will be disfellowshipped or disassociated within the next year or so.
i see it as inevitable, and an essential transition in order to do what i want to do with my life.
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00DAD
Cedars,
Did you see this thread which I started apparently 7 minutes before you started this one:
00DAD
BTW, I really like your comment about doing things on our terms and "according to our timing"!
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Is the grass greener on the other side?
by What Now? inhi all.... so my mom phoned me up this morning and said she needed to talk to me about something.
she asked me whether or not our (worldly) family thought that my husband and i were witnesses anymore.
one, someone in my family said to her, "i didn't know you guys wear short dresses like that" - commenting on a slightly above the knee dress i had worn to a family event.
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00DAD
It may not be greener, but at least it's real!
