Posts by shechaiyah

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What keeps you going after your exit from the Watchtower Society?

by Awen in

i am curious as to what you first did when you left the watchtower society's mind control cult.. did you try to find friends who had gotten out also?

did you go to school (college/university)?.

how different was the "world" you now found yourself in compared to living in jw-land?.

shechaiyah

Nothing changed much. My life has been filled with experiences centered around the Kingdom of God. I got remarried, had two more sons, went to college (age 40-49), tried going into business, got divorced again; took care of my adopted mother until her passing; kept all the balls in the air til I got sick and had to retire. Since then (age 57) I do research on-line, carry on four web-sites, a news group; several Photo Albums; collect crochet & knitting patterns for self-sufficiency in the future; wrote four books about living in community. YHVH God is still the center of my life, and I like it that way. I'm content; all my kids are grown and educated; and their kids are bright as new pennies. I do videos on Youtube, radio shows on BlogTalkRadio; I have 5000 Friends on Facebook because I do a news column that saves people time. Armageddon's here (called "Comet ELEnin") and the WTBTS doesn't give a SHIFT for its own people. What a shame.

SheCHAIyah

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On A Scale Of 1 to 10 How Much Knowledge Does A Jehovah's Witness Have About Their Religion?

by minimus in

jw
friends

years (many decades) ago, most jws knew what their religion taught.

they could go toe to toe with a minister or priest and make some good points.. i believe today's witness knows little about most of the convoluted teachings and revisions of the "truth".

yesteryear's witnesses got a 9/10.

shechaiyah

Yes, Policy, Process and Procedure are become MORE Holy, more Sacred, than Effects PRODUCED upon the people involved.

It's as if YHVH God forgot what a butterfly or rose ought to LOOK AS and PERFORM AS, and only cared whether they were shipped by the ton or not.

It's as if the numbers on the Service Report were more Sacred than the Love and Relationship of Souls for their Creator Father.

This is why I am NOT ashamed of having been THROWN OUT. I didn't sin; THEY did--shunning a whole family who had not violated Holy Law.

You know what happens, under Holy Law, when individuals are CURSED who are innocent?

Their JUDGES carry their curse, in the Judgment.

SheCHAIyah

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On A Scale Of 1 to 10 How Much Knowledge Does A Jehovah's Witness Have About Their Religion?

by minimus in

jw
friends

years (many decades) ago, most jws knew what their religion taught.

they could go toe to toe with a minister or priest and make some good points.. i believe today's witness knows little about most of the convoluted teachings and revisions of the "truth".

yesteryear's witnesses got a 9/10.

shechaiyah

[QUOTE] Years (many decades) ago, most JWs knew what their religion taught. They could go toe to toe with a minister or priest and make some good points.

I believe today's Witness knows little about most of the convoluted teachings and revisions of the "Truth". [/QUOTE]

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I can speak to this because I came into the Society in 1965 when you HAD TO KNOW "Jehovah." It wasn't ENOUGH to spout doctrine.

There had to be a relationship there, between the Witness and YHVH God. One CANNOT BE A WITNESS if you don't know the SUBJECT.

Being kicked out of the Herndon VA congregation for NO wrong-doing set me free from the Organization; but I never left Jehovah.

In the intervening 32 years, the Organization has reflected the same socio-spiritual experiences of all the other Churches: luke-warming of the "Elect."

In those days, we lived for the day that the whole System would go down; and it never needed "going down" MORE than it needs to do that now.

Corrupt, perfidious (lying), predatory and parasitic leadership is all we have anymore. In 1965 it wasn't this bad; Sincerity was still understood.

No more. Sincerity doesn't even come up. Nor does Faithfulness-under-trial; Commitment to principles of good behavior; or even, Chastity.

People don't even know WHAT "Chastity" is: to stand for a sacred principle against all odds.

Today WTBTS Leadership still talks about Armageddon, but they have not prepared the large body of Witnesses for disasters on their way here NOW.

Today WTBTS Leadership is all about accountability to "method and procedure"; never mind the disasters they create in human families and lives with their shunning policy, directed almost totally randomly AT single parent families and compromised relationships. They don't know Jehovah anymore! Jehovah is the God of RELATIONSHIP, not merely of belief-systems.

Negotiating the sale of the Brooklyn property, WTBTS have NO PLANS to create a sharing Christian community for brothers and sisters who have paid their way all these hundred and fifty years.

Personally, I think rank and file Witnesses have more of a grasp on Discipleship and Integrity than the people at Bethel, who in 32 years of my writing to the Governing Body about matters of principle, have never seen fit to reply, respond nor answer my questions surrounding IMPERSONAL and INDIFFERENT leadership.

But God is Faithful, even when Leadership stumbles and errs.

SheCHAIyah

9

Looking for some help

by manda-xo in

jw
friends

hey all :) i'm new to this website, just happened to of stumbled across it and learning lots from all of your posts!

i just need a bit of guidance, not for my self but for my boyfriend.

i myself have never been a jw but he has grown up in "the truth" and recently realized the real truth ;) both his mom, his dad, his step mom, and step dad are all witnesses and try to bring him back continuously, even though he has only gone to the odd meeting or 2 in the past 3 years.

shechaiyah

Face it: he's going to lose contact with his family, and that's how it is. Forever.

Soooo, I guess the two of you better make some new (permanently accepting) friends.

There's no "Out" clause; it's one way or the other, and shunning is permanent.

BTW, shunning also occurs in Amish and Old Order Quaker families.

Shech--

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Identifying God and true religion

by Terry in

there is no doctrine required for kindness.. you can't get it "wrong".

there is no judgement.. there is nothing to memorize when putting your hand out to a suffering person.

the human touch on a fevered brow and the comforting squeeze of the hand is irrefutable.. you don't have to graduate from a seminary to offer a smile and ask somebody how they are---how they really are.. there are no grounds for debate or rebuttal in visiting the ill, the dying, the widowed or the orphaned.. .

shechaiyah

There are jobs that nobody wants.

Nurses' aid or orderly in a hospital, Salvation Army recruit, garbage collector, military chaplain. Whistleblower.

Somebody needs to comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable, to dig up dirt and corruption.

Truth-telling is a cursed job; this is why prophets usually got killed for speaking out; killed or outed.

God has His own way of honoring those who do the "dirty-work" nobody else wants.

I have no complaints in this regard.

Shech--

81

What Actually Made You Leave The Organization?

by minimus in

jw
friends

many of us needed time to get away from this religion.

i took the course of fading and it's worked pretty well for me.

after i saw sooooo many silly rules being enforced, i needed to get out!.

shechaiyah

Little Mac, sounds as if your family never was attached to the world; nor are you, now.

That's my position too: permanently out-of-it, both the Society and the World itself.

I'm a stranger in Capitalist Ideologies Land.

I'm permanently attached at the hip to the Cosmos itself.

Shech--

81

What Actually Made You Leave The Organization?

by minimus in

jw
friends

many of us needed time to get away from this religion.

i took the course of fading and it's worked pretty well for me.

after i saw sooooo many silly rules being enforced, i needed to get out!.

shechaiyah

They were clueless that they were not teaching Truth as they claimed.

They treated wise women like dirt; and they indulge stupid men.

Single-parent families are seen as sinful even if they're not.

There's no protection for widows nor orphans nor unemployed nor bankrupt.

It's all dogma, with very little heart.

Shech--

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DON'T SPEND TIME WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES.

by Hairyhegoat in

these comments and the references to the old publications are a true find.

have a read of this and you will never become one of the jw's!.

don't associate with outsiders (non-jehovah's witnesses).

shechaiyah

Okay, just talk to and between yourself. That's HOW you'll know everything, THE TRUTH, eh?

Never mind, physicists, chemists, geologists, archaeologists, the ones reading old, old documents and molecular behavior!

Astronomers can lie about the Cosmos all day long; why not? They get paid, don't they?

You don't need their knowledge anyway!

Never mind outcomes of technology! Transhumanists can distort God's DNA, and who cares?

Monsanto can produce destructive and fatal sterile-seeds! What do you care?

Let's all just LOVE IGNORANCE, and call it worship!

That's why I left.

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Which Generation Are You?

by Bonnie_Clyde in

jw
friends

which generation are you?

and do you overlap with any or all of them?.

generation y has become the popular nickname for current teens and young adults.. .

shechaiyah

Technically I'm Silent Generation; but in reality, I make a great deal of noise.

I bring up unpopular topics; unpopular judgments; unpopular norms.

It's like: Somebody has to take out the garbage, and somebody has to remind people--

What may be true MAY NOT BE what people already think they know.

I'm a pest. :)

Shechaiyah

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My JW Daughter Engaged In "Bad Association" On Friday Night

by snowbird in

she attended a local club for her company's celebration party.. they were saluting her for doing an outstanding job.. she wore a pretty little black dress and those heels again.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/212671/1/baby-girl-gone-to-the-convention.

i tell you, that girl is getting bolder and bolder, or is it more and more brazen?.

shechaiyah

We are totalitarian if we try to take our children's lives away from them.

They have to see the outcomes of their choices; no parent can know what outcome his/her child gets,

psychologically, emotionally in terms of self-competence.

Safety, yes, is a huge issue now, and lots of parents are so busy they don't even know what unsafe is.

Vaccines are unsafe, antibiotics cause problems, GMO can't be digested; fast food is unsafe, sugar is unsafe.

Public schools are unsafe (completely), tv, video games & media are all programming-unsafe.

Even people outside the Organization are banding together to protect themselves from Corporate Not-Sees doing business-as-usual.

My kids are not witnesses; none of them and none of my grandchildren watch teevee. It insults intelligence.

What's missing from our lives is what is Sacred--

values, rituals, habits and friends that make us remember who we are in the sight of God.

Constantly being in "ministry school" never gave me the feeling that I was a beloved child of God.

So I turned to being silent, taking walks, writing down my ideas, listening to tones & sacred music.

Different ways helped me to keep a balance at different stages in my life; but the JW "GRIND" wore me down.

I have to admit that. The constant and never ending judgment: "You're not good enough and you'll never be good enough"

made meetings a real trial after a while. I went there to get built up, not cricitized to death.

So, maybe if we actually provide down-time for our kids that makes them feel happy, maybe they'll STAY happy Witnesses.

But a continual grind of just meetings, meetings and more meetings is a real drag on the Soul.

Shechaiyah