Posts by Theredeemer

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Finally Free!!!

by ADJUSTMENTS in

my wife and i are finally free of this horrible cult we will be leaving the south east for the north western part of the us to start anew!!!

our friends and family have no idea of our new beliefs and feelings on the cult so it should be a nice clean break!

hope to connect with some in that area pm me if you'd like.. .

Awake January 2015: How did life begin? - More misquotes

by Designer Stubble in

[quote]some might assume that a scientifically-minded person would pick evolution and that a religious person would pick creation.

but not always.. rama singh, professor of biology at canadas mcmaster university, says: the opposition to evolution goes beyond religious fundamentalism and includes a great many people from educated sections of the population.[/quote].

end-of-quote in awake.

Theredeemer

@ stealth: sure you can. All you need is the "...". For example, you could quote them when they said "We...have...sex...with...animals"

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MY CONCLUSION IS: 'GOD' DOESN'T EXIST

by NAVYTOWN in

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i have come to the conclusion that there is no god.

period!!!

if there was a loving, righteous, all-knowing, all powerful god up there somewhere, where is he and what good is he???

Theredeemer

exactly Punkofnice. Not only do they have to prove God exists, they also have to prove their God is the right one.

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The Present Truth is the Truth and the Old Truth is the Truth, even if they contradict.

by garyneal in

that is the conclusion you must accept if you are a jehovah's witness as my wife tries to explain to me that even if what they are teaching today contradicts what they were previously teaching, they had the truth then and they have the truth now.

the difference is, they (the witnesses and the governing body) simply believed that what they were teaching at the time was the truth but when they discovered new information they adjusted their thinking.

so since they formerly believed it to be the truth, they were in the truth.. an example she gave involved people who once believed the earth was flat.

Theredeemer

"You know why we say "I always thought it was this way anyway" when we are presented with new light or new understanding? It is because the truth is within true christians. Through holy spirit Jehovah has givin us the truth. We have had it the moment we wholeheartedly dedicated ourselves to him. However, he slowly makes the truth shine brighter as to not overwhelm us or stuble us. But when he does show us the brighter light, we realize it was always there, it just needed to be made brighter. That is why you here, "I always felt that way.""

This is what a former CO missionary, who is a family friend, explained new light to me after finding out I had left and had questions over things. This was the last 'question' he answered. After a long pause I responded "That is probably the most idiotic fantasy thing I have ever heard in my entire life! Did you just make that up right now or is this the kind of bull they teach you to spew out in Gilead School?! And you wonder why your no longer a CO".

Kind of harsh but I felt like he thought I was stupid to tell me this. Never spoke to him again.

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Question for "apostate" couples.

by 3rdgen in

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hi everyone!

today i was reminded that just because both of us left the wtbt$ we are not always on the same page.. .

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Theredeemer

My wife can go without hearing or seeing any new news on the JWs. I, on the other hand, check this site and post daily. I think the difference is I was born in and she converted later in her teen years. We talk about it alot and we pretty much share the same views on the Org. We discuss the craziness of it all at least twice a week. I think in time we will slowly talk less and less about it. For me, I think once my mom passes away I will completely shed that part of my life,maybe even this site.

As a couple I would hope to one day completely move on from this religion. I know that it will be talked about here and there, especially when we see someone or they come knocking, but it is still a big part of our lives.

I crave with all my heart that this religion implodes. Every time I open this site I hope to see some inside info or headline that reads" The Jig is UP!!" "watchtower to close" or something similar. I really dont know how to feel about this craving. I kind of wish I didnt care either way.

Maybe it is too soon. Maybe I went through too much. Maybe it takes 30 years to undue the 30 years of being in.

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Evolution and spirits

by Chris Tann in

as of now iam making an unbiased examination of evolution.

however one thing keeps me hanging on to the belief of a supreme spirit being; the existence of spirits.

i have heard countless accounts of people who have experienced frightening encounters with evil forces.

Theredeemer

New hope and happiness

Because someone writes a book and invents the life jacket makes him immune to being stupid? I dont think so!

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Service meeting video....what a non-event

by sir82 in

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at our service meeting we saw the video of a jw explaining his beliefs about 1914.. it was.....well, "underwhelming" does not do it justice.

what is below "underwhelming"?

"boringly tepid"?.

Theredeemer

No the next video will be "How to stick your head up your ass". Its a lie. Anyone can explain a lie. Even proving the lie can be done. Just use more lies. BUt if one keeps pushing and digging, soon or later, you will find the lie.

Obviously this is not for the householders, rather its for JWs. If you question its validity to anyone or the Elders they have a nice little video to explain it.

The only poeple in the territory that bring up 1914 are x-JWs, religious big wigs (preachers, priests, ect.) and people that really hate the JWs.

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Evolution and spirits

by Chris Tann in

as of now iam making an unbiased examination of evolution.

however one thing keeps me hanging on to the belief of a supreme spirit being; the existence of spirits.

i have heard countless accounts of people who have experienced frightening encounters with evil forces.

Theredeemer

My point: people.....people are stupid

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Evolution and spirits

by Chris Tann in

as of now iam making an unbiased examination of evolution.

however one thing keeps me hanging on to the belief of a supreme spirit being; the existence of spirits.

i have heard countless accounts of people who have experienced frightening encounters with evil forces.

Theredeemer

I remember a video that went viral of a bunch of people in Alabama who swore they saw a leprechaun in a tree. A LEPRECHAUN IN A TREE!

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What is the perfect product to sell to a JW?

by usualusername in

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what is the perfect product to sell to a jw?.

cheap?.

exclusive?.

Theredeemer

Here in my city I know alot of JWs that did Herbal Life. They made a killing. Now however, they are out of jobs since it became controversial. Also, One witness made a killing with Slender Lady, which I think ended up being a scam. Many witnesses worked under her and lost everything thing they had contributed into it. She, of course, has a beautiful house with brand new cars while her Elder Husband is a chief in the Fire Department. Very Very Christ like huh.

JW are very into alternative and herbal meds here where I live. My dad and step mom make good money ripping people off doing some salt/electro foot bath and frequency therapy. Of course, they believe they are ripping people off because they also buy into it. Same thing as being a witness right?