Perfect argument Five Gospels! Why should we continue to try to search for good excuses for all these lies! In Portugal they have used completely different arguments for the same shit.
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No Change in 1991 - Library Card
by Lionel_P_Hartley ini received the folowing two emails from dana loytved who is senior reference librarian at the un library in nyc.. in view of her first reply i asked her what procedure the wts used to access the library before 1991. her second reply is a bit cryptic but she states with confidence that there were no changes in procedure.
i don't want to pester these kind folks any more.. .
the procedure for a library pass is the following: the interested party needs to fill out an application form and supply a letter of recommendation in support of the research.
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Alward's Library Card and the Portuguese Letter
by Lionel_P_Hartley indespite a total lack of credible evidence alward continues to insist that the wts affiliated as an ngo with the un merely to get a library card.
since the various statements issued by the wts have been deceitful, dishonest and contradictory then there is no reason to believe them.
the onus of proof is on them, not upon those who documented this embarrassing relationship.
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Not surprisingly this scandal did not affect anything in the Portuguese JWs at all. I spoke to some Portuguese JWs friends that told me "nothing is wrong with this involvement, because it was for a very good cause - to help our brothers and sisters in Angola and Mozambique - to defend the most basic human rights".
Funny, now Jehovah God needs to beg the help of Satan the Devil to protect his own children!!
Hypocrites, that's it.
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UN/WTS SCANDAL IN USA NEWSPAPER
by hawkaw inafter much hard work a certain person has finally got the story published through a letter to the editor in the san bernardino sun.
you will find the article in the november 28, 2001 edition of the newspaper in the "opinion" section.
note the voice of the people section.
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GREAT JOB! WELL DONE! THANK YOU TO ALL WHO HAVE WORKED HARD TO MAKE THE TRUTH TO SHINE ABOVE ALL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE WILL CONTINUE TO DEFEND THE TRUTH.
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Get an investigation at UN started?
by CatholicGuy indo you think the un would begin an investigation if enough of us wrote them to ask for it?
(letters would be better than email for this, i think.
) perhaps to the secretariat office or the ambassador from the country you reside in?
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Does anybody know who is "Brother" James Long from the Watchtower? Here is what happened: Because, in the first place, I had no e-mail addresses from the WT, I sent a lot of messages through the main hidden electronic contact of the main page of the WT. After some annoying messages such as "HYPOCRITES", surprisingly, Someone answered back signed by James Long, calling himself "Human Rights Attorney". Since I am a lawyer myself, we start arguing about the interpretation of the requisites to become an NGO and the real legal consequences for the Watchtower’s political and social status. When he lost his temper and the ability to recognize the true facts, here is what he wrote me yesterday:
"It is interesting that a jurist and a lawyer such as yourself would not understand how to respond to the specific points that I explained in my email. Where are you licensed to practice law?
My comment was made in direct connection to the substance of your
previous email. You termed yourself a "lawyer and a jurist". Having
spent a significant portion of my lifetime communicating in oral and
written form with various legal professionals, I have reason, based upon experience, to find that your style of communication does not usually emanate from a legal professional. This is especially true given your most recent email. A true legal professional gets asked this question as a normal part of his or her professional life. Your reaction clearly indicates that such is not a normal question for you. I appreciate your attempts to collect information that is freely available on the web and send it to me, but I am well aware of it and find no need to respond to you concerning this matter any further. My time is better spent helping those that I am currently engaged with.
Sincerely,James Long
http://jehovah.to";Interesting that when he could not further discuss about the main subject - the NGO vs. Watchtower - turned against me, questioning me credentials as a lawyer
Interesting that when he could not further discuss about the main subject - the NGO vs. Watchtower - turned against me, questioning me credentials as a lawyer. Typical reaction. I like that last part "My time is better spent helping those that I am currently engaged with"! Helping?! Ah, I can understand...helping to protect the human rights... through the NGO Watchtower...too late now, man!
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Get an investigation at UN started?
by CatholicGuy indo you think the un would begin an investigation if enough of us wrote them to ask for it?
(letters would be better than email for this, i think.
) perhaps to the secretariat office or the ambassador from the country you reside in?
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Here is the last email from the UN Online:
Dear Sirs,
I have made it unequivocally clear that any query or complaint you wish to
raise should be addressed through email. You continually post in the Public
Discussion Area despite repeated instructions to the contrary. I am asking
you once more: if you wish to continue this discussion via email or raise a
complaint/appeal with our decisions to delete your messages then please
email [email protected]
If you continue to post in our Public Discussion Area we will contact your
Internet Service Providers and ask them to take further action.Regards,
Stephen Tapril.Deputy Secretary-General of United Nations OnLine. -
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Get an investigation at UN started?
by CatholicGuy indo you think the un would begin an investigation if enough of us wrote them to ask for it?
(letters would be better than email for this, i think.
) perhaps to the secretariat office or the ambassador from the country you reside in?
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I have posted a message on the United Nations Online Public Discussion Area ( http://www.unol.org//caucus.shtml) about the "Watchtower and the NGO Scandal" and I was severely warned by the Stephen Tapril/Deputy Secretary-General of UNOL that it could not be discussed there. They gave no explanation at all why I could not expose my opinion about this incident. I sent further messages but they kept removing my posts and warned me to take further action if I continue to post anything about this subject.
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MAJOR UN/WTS NEWS- UN LETTER & 1992 Press R...
by hawkaw inas of 6:02 pm last night i received a facsimile from paul hoeffel at the un on the wts.. he gave me 3 of the 4 things i requested in two paragraphs.. i have sent a scanned version to steve bates and someone else.. i sent it to kent and randy.
and kent and randy have posted the official united nations letter on their web sites.. here is the letter - put your cursor on the image and then right click on your mouse and hit "save image" to your computer.. .
after you look at kent's web site and you people still think this it is a fake letter, phone paul hoeffel yourself at (212) 963-8070.. hawk
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After all evidence, after all news, after all data, after all letters, after all enquiries, after all calls to the UN, after all this scandal, the JWs in Portugal still saying: THIS IS A FAKE STORY MADE BY THE APOSTASY
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Some WTBTS.ORG e-mail addresses and more
by Kent inplease fill in more!.
mark leigh or paul gillies .
public affairs office for jehovah's witnesses .
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Kent, thank you very much for your wonderful stuff!
I will work on it right away!
Does anybody knows the e-mails of the Portuguese JWs Branch in Carnaxide, Portugal? If yes, post it here, please.
Thank you very much in advance.
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WTS comments UN case in Portuguese newspaper
by Osarsif inarticle in portuguese newspaper publico (saturday, october 20, 2001) about the un case:.
testemunhas de jeova ligaram-se a "besta".
(jehovah's witnesses connected with the "beast").
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The argument of Mr. Pedro Candeias is an insult to the intelligence of the readers and of the JWs (if they have any!). I know this man personally for many years and I could not imagine such kind of hypocrisy coming from this person. As Lawyer, I know the Chart of the UN and its principles and requisites to be met to be admitted in the NGOs official list. But is it not necessary to be a jurist to understand such regulations. Any common person can read it and be aware of the consequences to be part of the NGOs. I can understand the "mingle-mangle" state of mind of the members of the bethelhome in Carnaxide, Portugal. Such a mess and misgovernment when you take the Devil's side!
Shame on those who have not the gut to defend the truth!
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WTS comments UN case in Portuguese newspaper
by Osarsif inarticle in portuguese newspaper publico (saturday, october 20, 2001) about the un case:.
testemunhas de jeova ligaram-se a "besta".
(jehovah's witnesses connected with the "beast").
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The argument of Mr. Pedro Candeias is an insult to the intelligence of the readers and of the JWs (if they have any!). I know this man personally for many years and I could not imagine such kind of hypocrisy coming from this person. As Lawyer, I know the Chart of the UN and its principles and requisites to be met to be admitted in the NGOs official list. But is it not necessary to be a jurist to understand such regulations. Any common person can read it and be aware of the consequences to be part of the NGOs. I can understand the "mingle-mangle" state of mind of the members of the bethelhome in Carnaxide, Portugal. Such a mess and misgovernment when you take the Devil's side!
Shame on those who have not the gut to defend the truth!
A Loyal servant of Jehovah (not of the decadent Watchtower)