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  Today's Watchtower Lesson Really Bothered Me...

  by dontplaceliterature in

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  i was a hair away from telling my wife i never wanted to go to the kingdom hall again after today's watchtower.

  the conductor mentioned something along the lines of..."if you think having to shun your disfellowshipped children is bad...you should read up on the israelites.

  when one of their children was disobedient to the law, they had to take the before the judges so that they could be stoned to death...and guess who's job it was throw the first stone?".

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  N.drew

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  Today's Watchtower Lesson Really Bothered Me...

  by dontplaceliterature in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was a hair away from telling my wife i never wanted to go to the kingdom hall again after today's watchtower.

  the conductor mentioned something along the lines of..."if you think having to shun your disfellowshipped children is bad...you should read up on the israelites.

  when one of their children was disobedient to the law, they had to take the before the judges so that they could be stoned to death...and guess who's job it was throw the first stone?".

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  An elder usually conducts the Watchtower study, right? An elder should know the Bible. He probably was referencing Deuteronomy 21:18-20. He is applying it to disfellowshipped ones???? What the scripture means is the adult child in the household is causing the parents grief over a long period of time "he will not obey our voice". It says he is a glutton (which means to shake as in the wind-my take is it means the parents are affected to the point of shaking) and he is a drunkuen (adults drink). So now you have a contentious drinker in the house disrupting the peace of the household, he won't stop. Then he gets taken to the elders of the city, now here, I'm sure he can get scared to repent, so it's not over yet. If the rebel does not smarten up at this point he is stoned "by the men of the city". I do not know where it is written that the parents are to throw the first stone, really it does not say that the parents throw any stone.

  My conclusion is the scene only occurs when things get so bad for the others in the house, that it becomes it's him or us.

  So, in case someone is dis-fellowshipped and is quietly waiting for grace, (has anyone ever notice how good dis-fellowshipped ones are?), I think this is the last scripture to apply to them. And the brother who said mommy should throw the first stone should be damned. Amen
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  Is the New Testament only for the 144,000 then?

  by TimothyT in

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  if its right what the watchtower say and the new testament is only for the 144,000, then where the hell does everyone else fit in then?.

  why do the other witnesses even bother?.

  surely jesus sacrifice and the new testament are written for all professing to have faith in him?.

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  Welcome extractor Funny flip flopping figurative friends, it's all been worth it. So, where did you get your sarcasm meter?
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  Is the New Testament only for the 144,000 then?

  by TimothyT in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if its right what the watchtower say and the new testament is only for the 144,000, then where the hell does everyone else fit in then?.

  why do the other witnesses even bother?.

  surely jesus sacrifice and the new testament are written for all professing to have faith in him?.

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  N.drew

  I think the "little flock" are they who understand the sacred secret. The "other sheep" are all they who listen to the little flock and come to Jesus to bear his yoke along side him. Matthew 11:29,30. Can one become of the 144,000 without knowing the scriptures? It's possible, I think. But not possible to be opposed to Jesus and be of the little flock, or the other sheep.
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  Where did the people go?

  by N.drew in

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  i wondered what the avitar was of j. hofer and timothy pointed out it was gerrit loesch so i googled it and came to a page here that was six years old.

  but sadly the posts were posted by people who i have not seen post here (for the short time i have been here).

  this is the best place on the internet.

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  N.drew

  Hi mrsjones5 Seven years you have been posting. Your husband does too? Have there been periods in seven years where nobody posts for a while?
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  Where did the people go?

  by N.drew in

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  i wondered what the avitar was of j. hofer and timothy pointed out it was gerrit loesch so i googled it and came to a page here that was six years old.

  but sadly the posts were posted by people who i have not seen post here (for the short time i have been here).

  this is the best place on the internet.

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  N.drew

  I wondered what the avitar was of J. Hofer and Timothy pointed out it was Gerrit Loesch so I googled it and came to a page here that was six years old. But sadly the posts were posted by people who I have not seen post here (for the short time I have been here). Where did they go? This is the best place on the internet. And I have not been ousted yet.
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  Is the New Testament only for the 144,000 then?

  by TimothyT in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if its right what the watchtower say and the new testament is only for the 144,000, then where the hell does everyone else fit in then?.

  why do the other witnesses even bother?.

  surely jesus sacrifice and the new testament are written for all professing to have faith in him?.

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  AGuest Better you than me! It might have taken a thousand years for me to say that (what you said). You are quick! God bless you. I'll read it later or now, now me thinks. It's hard to find my place. Again.
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  Is the New Testament only for the 144,000 then?

  by TimothyT in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if its right what the watchtower say and the new testament is only for the 144,000, then where the hell does everyone else fit in then?.

  why do the other witnesses even bother?.

  surely jesus sacrifice and the new testament are written for all professing to have faith in him?.

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  It is God's Will that ALL men be saved and come to an accurate knowledge. No more will they say "know Jehovah" for they will all know, from the least to the greatest. The least might be them of the "great crowd" who will end up dead, (not because they don't want to be-don't you love those double negatives huh?), the greatest are the kings and priests with Jesus, we, I mean I, don't know where they come from. It's just theory. No jerk was harmed in the posting of this post. Not you JRK. Please.
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  Is the New Testament only for the 144,000 then?

  by TimothyT in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if its right what the watchtower say and the new testament is only for the 144,000, then where the hell does everyone else fit in then?.

  why do the other witnesses even bother?.

  surely jesus sacrifice and the new testament are written for all professing to have faith in him?.

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  N.drew

  That is correct. People who say atheism is a religion are making stupid words of nonsense.
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  Is the New Testament only for the 144,000 then?

  by TimothyT in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if its right what the watchtower say and the new testament is only for the 144,000, then where the hell does everyone else fit in then?.

  why do the other witnesses even bother?.

  surely jesus sacrifice and the new testament are written for all professing to have faith in him?.

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  N.drew

  Thank you. You are a gentleman J. Hofer.