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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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I shudder to think of him owning a hotel for desperate people
Hotel Lloydland
"You can check out any time you like But you can never leave"
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
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2. scandals
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lloydevansparody

they did at one point try to shut him down
Again, we need to stop going off what he claims. Just because he makes a video saying "the WatchTower is trying to silence me" does not mean they are.
It sounds pretty much like WT persecution porn
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
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lloydevansparody

Why chose having sex with a prostitute instead of someone who does not sell her body on the regular?
It's about power, not about sex. A sex worker is a disposable object for him. In the other scenario the partner is still a disposable object but some sort of feelings and emotions may be involved and many, too many risks and complications.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
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Just for reference, Jamie Doxey always likes to interact with LE's critics pointing out how amazing LE is and what amazing job he does and how wrong everyone else is. No matter how terrible the things Lloyd did are. Discussing with him it is like to discuss with a JW about how amazing Governing Body members are. Jamie likes to be at the centre of the discussion. IMHO it is really pointless to discuss LE with this spineless character and frankly I don't think even LE takes him seriously.
Personally for what it counts I find him astonishingly boring.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
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lloydevansparody

Joel
We have so much respect for you
LEP
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
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2. scandals
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I don't fault Evans for going to Thailand and having some fun with women and sex. He may not have felt that it was cheating, because the relationships were about sex and not love.
Fun??? Try to think of the girls in Thailand who had to deal with that experience and more. Strange how it seems Lloyd's supporters never think about them! Let's have fun!
"The relationships were about sex and not love". But of course: "Veni, Vidi, Fucked and Left!
Ave imperator!
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
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I did many "appeals' for apostasy and many had to be reversed. You would be surprise to know that few elders really know procedure for apostasy. Even elders of a certain "calibre" know very little about apostasy. Your letter for instance shouldn't have been accepted for what it counts.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
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Don't agree Lloydevansparody, I was invited to a judicial committee from 3 Wilmslow elders in trumped up apostasy
I do not know the dynamics of your case but in this case a normal procedure wasn't followed. Had you been disfellowshipped your appeal would have been upheld and most probably those elders would receive discipline. Were you admonished twice before the JC?
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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I am aware people can tell monumental lies to cover up their wrongdoing, but Lloyd goes beyond lies on quite a grand scale.
Obviously being labelled as an "apostate" opens a lot of opportunities in terms of activism especially if you are after an income.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
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29 December 2013 - During a judicial committee for apostasy in Croatia Lloyd Evans hands in a disassociation letter for both himself and his wife. His letter simply stated that he resigned as a JW. His wife's was longer and evidently ambiguous - enough so that the elders felt they should have their own meeting with her.
There are some issues with this statement I don't go along.
One can handle a disassociation letter in at any time least of all during a JC. Actually one of the reason some do this is because they don't want to attend a JC. Yes undoubtedly the elders would try to speak to the person and in the end a JC could be formed often in absentia in the case of a disassociation letter. Generally disassociation letters must be kept simple and straight to the point. A letter that would list the reasons that one decided to leave the JWs wouldn't be accepted. That explains the elders' request for a revised letter from Dijana. In short no one can write a letter saying they sinned of porneia or celebrated Christmas so they decided to go. That kind of letter won't be accepted and a formal JC would still be the only possible way.
There is another massive problem with this though. No one can be disfellowshipped for apostasy the very same night of their JC. Apostasy is one of those sins that doesn't follow the usual rule. No elder would risk to lose an appeal because they decided to cut corners, speeding the business up a bit. It doesn't work like that. The person who is believed to be apostatising needs to be officially admonished at the very least 2 times and this BEFORE a JC can even be formed.
Apostasy trials often require more elders than normal ones. Often 5. I heard of a trial with 13 elders. I personally assisted one with 7. Generally elders prepare a lot of material before hand. It is really hard work. And they KNOW what sort of teachings the person objects (because of the 2 previous official warnings) No. Apostasy trials are not performed by the chance. They are meticulously prepared and dealt with the massive attention by the elders.
If during a JC for apostasy a person gets frustrated with the elders and declare that they had enough and they would write a letter of disassociation I would be really surprised that it would be accepted.
Did Lloyd Evans attend his own JC for apostasy? From what he writes about the answer is no he did not.