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So, depending on which end of the political spectrum you are, it is either a badge or a label (or an albatross). I find it to be a meaningless term, pretty much from the beginning.
The thing is that we are more than often passing the wrong message here. Lloyd did what he did because he was/is "woke". And this is very wrong and disrespectful for his victims. It shouldn't matter what political spectrum each of us is into. We should concentrate on the facts.
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Being "woke" means being an insufferable asshole
I think if someone is an asshole being woke or not is completely irrelevant. Having said that, I thought we were here to analyse with a critical eye Lloyd's behavior. I didn't know we were so elevate to judge and generalise the entire world. As someone who knows Lloyd very well I can assure you that him being "woke" is the least of the problems. Perhaps the topic is stagnating and we don't know what to talk about. Fairly, you used to delete comments that were irrelevant to Lloyd abuse and behavior. Or remind us why were here at the very least. I see this is not longer a necessity now.
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interracial couple that woke Lloyd
sorry for the intrusion but is it really that bad to be "woke"? I see you always remark people being "woke" negatively as if this is a sort of disease. Isn't this the same JW mindset? It sounds like labelling people as "wordly' to me. The same negative connotation. I may be wrong but Lloyd being woke or not woke isn't the real problem here. It never has. I am happy to be corrected if I am wrong. Best
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Everyone wants to back a winner. Lloyd thinks that makes him a winner.
I interject briefly to add an extra point to your detailed summary. This has now become Lloyd Evans vs Kim Silvio and by extension vs the whole exjws-non-lloyidians community at large. Has anyone noticed that he has been spending most of his resources and time and money and energy to fight against Kim et al., rather than WatchTower? Previously he was making money and profit battling WT. Now he is making money (less and less I daresay) by battling Kim and anyone who is against him. That is a point. He needs the Us vs Them ideology to do that. That is the reason he has never disclosed that the Court's been demanding to handle evidence for months. I am sure his plan was to keep this legal battle alive for years. He needed that for so many reasons. You probably guess what the reasons are. But again he knows that the battle against WT is over for him. It is a tiring, tedious and boring job and if this doesn't bring money and popularity then what's the point? It was easy when he had brains around him to do the hard work for him. But now his mission is different. He needs to capitalize from this Kim Silvio business as much as he can. He knows that many exjws are easy to manipulate. As you said, many don't do research. They like to hear what they want to hear. They pay money and don't even know why. It doesn't matter if it is for the "good news" or "lloyd's cause". And he knows that. Posting every now and then something against WT just for the bare minimum but working constantly on how to defeat his opponents and enemies. This Patron business and YT subscribes purchasing has nothing to do with WT. It is purely for his one and only mission he has got. And on a long run this may become an obsession and be seriously dangerous.
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people voting with their feet - and wallet...
it's too early.
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As for people using his daughters name? HE did that while talking about his sexual indiscretions and regular use of prostitutes!
My tweet had zero connection with he as an abuser and his daughter. He used his daughters for months as marketing tools by the way just a few days before each end of month. And.. and...
And ... If he really cared about his daughters he wouldn't have left them for a 2 month holiday to "fuck" young girls. Apologies for my language Simon et al., but this is more effective and realistic than saying "dating" a sex worker
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"What they won't do it is silence me. I will win"
Obviously just after he pressed deletion before anyone could reply that he and only he destroyed himself.
In any case he is not quitting. The last paragraph says it all. Who knows John Cedars from the very beginning knows that he is not able to be truthful and honest.
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What an inept buffoon. The reality is different. His channel is dying because of the poor content, repetitive, boring and unnecessary. He probably does not take pleasure anymore in making content since money is not flowing in and engagement is disastrous. No more insiders to help him. No one wants to appear at his side except for Ali Millar and Jay the RidicolusComedian. There was probably nothing more to do for Tibor. No money. No glory. Who could blame him? But of course this is just the Aftermath of the judgmental mob on his "private" life and not because he is a bad entrepreneur. Ahwww this man (sort of). Just wonder what's coming next. This is WatchTower style at its best.
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He got KO'd in the first round
At the "Madison" Square Garden 😉
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Toblerone5, Watchtower never asked him to remove anything. He had a copyright strike he thought it was from Watchtower. He obviously made a live stream about it and surprise surprise he collected some cash. It turned out the copyright strike was done by someone else no related to Watchtower.
He had issues with Watchtower just for the IICSA representation. WT points were silly as they didnt want him but frankly he was really not entitled to be there as he had no experience with CSA. One could argue that since he was an elder and knew policies etc., but I am sure there were more experienced former elders/bethelites/COs who could be more representative.
