Bolthof
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Is everything that doesnt add ud explained as a vision, a parable or a "poem" ?
by Bolthof inhi.. i meet up with a couple of jw once a week and it seems to me that every time i show them a verse that says something that contradicts their doctrine they say that it is a parable, a vision.. or a poem of some sort.
what are your toughts about this ?.
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Bolthof
Crazyguy - Why do you think I should stop "studying" with them ? I do not believe a single word they say. Im just there to make them see what I think the bible really says. And I know it can be done. If they are willing to listen that is. -
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Is everything that doesnt add ud explained as a vision, a parable or a "poem" ?
by Bolthof inhi.. i meet up with a couple of jw once a week and it seems to me that every time i show them a verse that says something that contradicts their doctrine they say that it is a parable, a vision.. or a poem of some sort.
what are your toughts about this ?.
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Bolthof
I have long wanted to ask them how they can be sure which bits of the Bible are literal and which not. - Everything that goes against their teachings is a parable ;)
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Is everything that doesnt add ud explained as a vision, a parable or a "poem" ?
by Bolthof inhi.. i meet up with a couple of jw once a week and it seems to me that every time i show them a verse that says something that contradicts their doctrine they say that it is a parable, a vision.. or a poem of some sort.
what are your toughts about this ?.
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Bolthof
@Cofty (btw how do you quote someone in this forum?) I did point out Pauls desire to be outside of the body and with Christ. And I said : why would he say that he wanted to be outside of the body thousands of years before he actually got to be with Christ according to jw theology. They said that it he was talking about a long time ahead because his wish was so strong. ... I didnt use philipians though. I used 2. Cor 5,8 (Sorry for my bad english) English is not my first language -
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Is everything that doesnt add ud explained as a vision, a parable or a "poem" ?
by Bolthof inhi.. i meet up with a couple of jw once a week and it seems to me that every time i show them a verse that says something that contradicts their doctrine they say that it is a parable, a vision.. or a poem of some sort.
what are your toughts about this ?.
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Bolthof
Thank you ! The latest topic was the state of the dead. They used ecclasaties to say that "the dead know nothing" Then I pointed out That Elijah and Moses appeared to Jesus and were talking to him in Matt 17,1. (this was a vision they said) And then Rev 6:9: Where the dead ask : how long will we have to wait. And then the story about Lasarus and the rich man that was suffering - which had to be a parable. And then 1 sam 28:3,15,19 Where the bible says they summoned Samuel (he was dead) and he spoke to them (this they explained with "It was actually a demon that was summoned") -
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Is everything that doesnt add ud explained as a vision, a parable or a "poem" ?
by Bolthof inhi.. i meet up with a couple of jw once a week and it seems to me that every time i show them a verse that says something that contradicts their doctrine they say that it is a parable, a vision.. or a poem of some sort.
what are your toughts about this ?.
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Bolthof
Hi.
I meet up with a couple of jw once a week and it seems to me that every time I show them a verse that says something that contradicts their doctrine they say that it is a parable, a vision.. or a poem of some sort. What are your toughts about this ?