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  Special PO School

  by XBEHERE in

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  anyone attend?

  what was disscussed?

  i am not an elder anymore much less a po but i am still curious.

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  XBEHERE

  Anyone attend? What was disscussed? I am not an elder anymore much less a PO but I am still curious.
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  How the Circuit Overseer Manipulates the Body of Elders

  by TMS in

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  the relationship between local elders and the circuit overseer has fluctuated over the years.

  in the sixties, .

  the circuit overseer simply appointed all the servants.

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  OnTheWayOut,

  What you described is how it is most of the time with appointments. Our unanimous reccomendations were talked down by the CO all the time and yes the "kiss asses" usually said something like "... you know now that I reason on it, it is too soon" or some B.S. like that. Holy spirit plays no role in appointments of MS's and elders.
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  What Did You Actually Do At Meetings?

  by minimus in

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  were you a note taker?

  did you truly listen??

  were you a daydreamer?

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  currently, if I go, I daydream or pretend to look at the information board several times. I also go to the bathroom multiple times.
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  As A Witness, What Were Your Aspirations?

  by minimus in

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  having been raised a witness, i was taught to never refuse an assignment.

  view everything as a "privilege from jehovah".

  so naturally, wanting to be an elder was very important to me and to my family.

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  I wanted to be a CO. Life took over and both wife and I stopped pioneering after I was appointed an elder because we were tired of it. So that dream was gone... oh well
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  What does it require to be a Saved Christian

  by Undecided in

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  first you must have faith in something you can't prove is real.

  assured expectation of something you can't see.

  must talk to some god you can't see or hear.

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  XBEHERE

  According to the bible if that is what you base your beliefs on its knowing the only true god and the one he sent forth Jesus Christ.

  According to the JWs its going to 5 boring mtgs a week, commenting, reaching out, going out knocking on mostly empty homes, cutting off almost every single non-witness in your life, giving up holidays that they clearly have no reason to...etc, etc, blah blah BLAH!
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  Do you know any staunch "Trinitarians" that quit believing in the Trinity?

  by booker-t in

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  2. friends

  an elder once told me that to make a trinitarian stop believing in the trinity doctrine is almost like walking against an escalator.

  he said it is next to impossible to change their way of thinking no matter what scriptures you show them.

  it seems that they are "jesus" franatics and what ever scripture they show you trying to prove jesus is god they totally do a backpedal when a scripture applying to another that can prove godship is always disregarded.

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  the Trinity seeks to solve the pesky problem of having apparently two Gods, God the son as well as God the Father. Christians were in danger of getting accused of believing in two Gods.

  I think the bible actually teaches that they are the same. He was YHVH for the Israelites then he became Jesus (YHVH is salvation) for the 1st Century Jews and gentiles. This is the reason that YHVH isnt found nearly as much as it is in the old testament because the name is in Jesus. The NWT actually replaces Kurios with Jehovah when the verses are actually referring to Jesus.
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  Where were you when the planes hit?

  by coolhandluke in

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  2. experiences

  it f*cks me off that this happened only a few years ago but no one in my office has yet to even mention it.

  it was such a pivotal event:.

  i was driving from fontana to chino in california dressed in service clothes.

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  I was in the #5 train on my way to work. When we stopped at Wall St. you could smell the jetfuel and the smoke already.
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  Wife went to bed in tears again. Sept KM this time. Her response..

  by oompa in

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  ok, slowly awakening and fading at the same time for two years now, and did not plan it.

  i tell my wife last night i have been having some interesting e-mails with my dad about the qb from the sept km we are to study this week.

  she says she has read it, but does not remember it.

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  "Why do you only see the negative? You have been like this for two years, and I don't think I can take anymore. What about the good things in the orginazation?"

  This is almost the same exact thing my wife told me the other day when I was complaining about something in the congregation. I forsee a long road ahead for people in our situation unless our mates wake up on their own.
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  WT monitoring JWD? Absolutely!

  by fedorE in

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  from channel c (today).

  you may have read something similar to this before but the specific details are interesting.. this was put on a uk forum by an xjw called gordon...he gave me permission to use his post.. .

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  XBEHERE

  If they have an IP address they can trace which private or public entity its leased or assigned to. They can then come up with a domain name (*@user.com, org, etc.) thats about all they can find out since its against the law for AOL, Yahoo, or local cable and phone internet providers to give out your personal info to unauthorized persons including your name.

  I think the only people that need to worry are people who have actually emailed any of the branches or Patterson, Brooklyn with that domain name since then they could simply match it up. This is still circumstantial evidence though since for example there are millions who use Yahoo email.
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  Did You See Brothers Use Politics to Reach Out For M/S or Elder Positions?

  by flipper in

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  2. friends

  hello folks.

  valid question i believe.

  in the early 80's 1979 to 1985 i was a m/s and stepped down after having 3 kids bang, bang, bang in late 20's.

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  XBEHERE

  I have many stories which I cant tell due to the fact that the detail that I need to share in them would definitely expose me should any elder and or most of the publishers be lurking on here. I will say this though, the part that politics plays in appointments, getting assembly and convention parts, city overseer, etc, etc depends largely on how "simonized" the CO is at the time. Our last CO needed surgery to remove certain brothers from his colon. Since he left these brothers have yet to be on any assembly program. This is the CO that I argued with at least on 2-3 occasions and even wrote the service dept. about. He was truly an a**hole!