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  Why do JWs stay despite doubts & discoveries about JW Beliefs?

  by ProfCNJ in

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  if we are going to create a pie chart with the following categories, what could be the main components-reasons and their respective percentages for just staying in the organization in spite of the doubts, discoveries about the jw doctrines/beliefs?

  i doubt if the topmost reason is because of love of jehovah god and his son jesus christ.

  your inputs dear friends and fellow brothers will be most appreciated.. a. below 40 years old.

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  XBEHERE

  A. below 40 years old

  B. 40 years old and above

  1) Concern about Family's Reaction (closely tied to number 7 below, not really my kids as much as wife and my immediate family) - % 50

  2) Friends & social connections/well-being %2

  (and the fear of losing them all because of shunning) - % 0

  3) Love of Jehovah God and His Son - % 3

  4) Love of the worlwide brotherhood - % 0

  5) Fear of destruction in Armageddon - % 0

  6) Discomfort in moving to another religion/sect - % 4

  7) Others Fear of losing my wife to divorce since despite being a JW I feel that we truly love each other and are compatible- % 41

  Total 100%
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  Should all elders be painted with the same brush?

  by Socrateswannabe in

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  an hour or two ago, i was reading a topic on this forum that welcomed new elders to jwn.

  there was some criticism aimed at the op and i understand that elders shouldn't be singled out as special.

  one poster said he/she hates all elders.

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  XBEHERE

  Welcome to my situation. Work on your wife, thats key. I have been trying to swing her around but we're both born ins.....its going to be an uphill battle.
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  I think my wife is going to open the can of worms...

  by sosoconfused in

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  so over the last 5 - 7 months as some may know i have resigned as an elder and just came to a cold stop going to the meetings.

  brothers call i wont answer the phone.

  if they come by i just wont answer the door.

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  XBEHERE

  Awesome! Don't ever let go of that woman.
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  Former Long Time Elder, New Member

  by James Jackson in

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  i have served 20 years as an elder, 5 years as an ms. was on the district committee in 2010, held various positions on the district , circuit, and rbc level.

  probably been on more than 100 judicial committees and even an appeals committee.

  was the coordinator in our congregation and deleted because adult child was df ( i kicked him out at the time of his wrongdoing, but that wasn't enough for thr brothers).

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  XBEHERE

  Welcome, I hope you continue to enjoy our company.
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  GB (Splane) says JW parent should "force" their children

  by Gayle in

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  2. beliefs

  to go in "service," "baptism," etc.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsqmosgj710

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  XBEHERE

  lol.. its obvious that he has never had kids and if he has then his wife Linda raised them because he is clueless. Force, that might..MIGHT work for 15 yrs or so then when they are bigger, possibly smarter, and independent they do what they want anyway
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  Gifts for C.O.'s and D.O.'s

  by sosoconfused in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  does anyone else find it funny that the circuit overseers and district overseers go to a new congregation every week, have all their bills paid and then for some odd reason the elders always find a way to give them extra money.

  on top of that there are atleast 10 families in every hall that give them a green handshake.

  then the people who give them expensive gifts (i am ashamed to say i participated in this) like watches etc... yet these guys still act like they are giving up so much.... .

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  XBEHERE

  What Sir82 said, if they get assigned to a well to do part of the U.S. then they can make a bundle. But I do think that it isnt just about the money with these guys. Its the power, they are so high on a power trip that its insane. Imagine getting to boss around elders, some of whom are older than you are, all the while they are sucking the CO's off to get assigned parts on assemblies, etc. Hey the clergy of JWs dont get paid so they need something to feed on.
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  Racist ideas still present in the org.

  by sosoconfused in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  another thread on this board recalled to my mind the various thoughts and ideas in this organization that are still very prevelant among many.. .

  for instance i already mentioned the late 70's to early 80's segregation in the kingdom halls, but in the 90's clear through to now for instance:.

  at bethel in the mid 90's if you listened to or were found with rap music you were gone, no questions asked.

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  XBEHERE

  I guess it really depends on what area of the United States you are in because I am not seeing any of those issues here where I am and I am in a so-called "mixed marriage". At least no more than the general population I guess.
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  Due to Ongoing Concern about Dwindling Meeting Attendances, IS THE BOOK STUDY ARRANGEMENT GOING TO BE RE-INSTATED NEXT YEAR?

  by steve2 in

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  2. friends

  i have some family and friends still in the organization.

  i don't actively seek updates - my lovely contacts provide me with them unsolicited.

  so far the updates have been reliable and confirmed sooner or later by subsequent developments.

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  XBEHERE

  They cant go back. They have been absolutely hammering the "Family Worship Evening" at every single chance that they get. Assemblies, Conventions, CO visits, Service meetings, etc. This was the reason that they are touting as why the bookstudy night was disbanded and now they are in way too deep to backpedal now. In reality the comments in this thread are spot on, they realize now that the bookstudy was honestly the meeting most people liked the best because it was more relaxed and informal. They have created quite the "rock and hard place" now with the 2 meeting arrangement.
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  Powerfully heart-wrenching experience by FORMER BETHLITE

  by Black Man in

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  2. friends

  just wanting to post an experience by a former bethelite.

  the first part was just published with the other two coming overt the next couple of weeks.

  click the link.

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  XBEHERE

  Scott I would do that but honestly I was just a worker bee, no influence whatsover. I do remember one of the guys from the photog dept. getting married to a very young, hot bride. She was such a flirt. She ended up getting pregnant and he confided in a friend of mine that she admitted to him it was becasue she wanted kids and hated it at bethel. I saw so many while there that just look unhappy, especially the wives. Sad to waste young life there I am so glad I only put in the time that I did.

  Black I was there from 1989-1992 so perhaps we did overlap a little.
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  Powerfully heart-wrenching experience by FORMER BETHLITE

  by Black Man in

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  2. friends

  just wanting to post an experience by a former bethelite.

  the first part was just published with the other two coming overt the next couple of weeks.

  click the link.

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  XBEHERE

  Awesome experience. Please post the rest as soon as you can. When I was at Brooklyn Bethel I remember the adulteries, and thefts taking place. I too ignored it like Mariuca did. There are so many miserable married couples there.