i found the meetings to be especially boring from the late 1980s on.
before that, we actually tried to make people want to listen.
the meetings were pretty interesting.
Occasionally a decent speaker will give a public talk that is pretty good, they might bring out sound scriptural counsel that is actually beneficial not doctrinal. These are very rare...once a year if that.
Beyond this... lol are you fcuking kidding! Most people in attendance at meetings are asleep while their eyes are open... sometimes not even open.
i have never understood why the jw's did'nt have a sunday school or some kind of educational thing going for children.
it seems pretty selfish and antiquated.. i remember growing up, i was terrified of "satan" and "the demons".
not forgetting the "jehovah is watching you" crapola.. i think it's wrong letting young kids listen to fairly adult themed talks, items etc....it's got to affect them mentally.. any thoughts?.
We were talking about this once and an elder said that there is no provision for this because in ancient Israel all of god's people met together at the festivals and assemblies. Additionally there is no mention of first century christians doing this therefore, we follow those patterns today.
And yes I agree its antiquated and stupid.
will the wts be issuing one (or has issued onne already?
) or will the www.jw.org online library be the future?.
A Bethelite (son of a friend of mine) told me that they are working on them but they are delayed.
my mom (who is now a regular pioneer) has been laid up after having major surgery, and i assert my "biblical" rights as a daughter to do what i can to take care of her, so i have been trying to go to her house on my day off to vaccum and run errands for her since she is not supposed to drive.. she called me last saturday to tell me that i couldn't come by because she was driving to her pioneer appreciation day get-together, wtf .
i'm just curious if this only happens in my area (michigan, us)????.
chg. .
What blondie said but in my congregation they make you (the elder) super guilty if you don't go. Even though the outline instructions state that 2 elders will conduct the meeting but other elders may also attend if they wish to. Same stupid, drivel served up every year study more, reach people's hearts, plan your time wisely, follow cong. arrangements, etc. etc.
The elders use that stupid outline as an excuse to get together with their wives, pioneers, pioneers husbands (usually also minsterial servants) and have a group "orgy" of brown nosing and butt kissing.
the preaching the jw.org thing is so strange.
the two generations "new light" is crazy.
but then again i look back at some of the things i believed and taught wonder 'what was i thinking'?
see things clearer once removed from influence
This one.
i don't.. i consider myself a truth teller.. the watchtower society appears to be more "apostate" than even "christendom"..
a·pos·tate
/ əˈpɒs
noun 1.
a person who forsakes his religion , cause, party, etc.
According to dictionary.com I guess I am.
and died at home in panama city beach, florida.
steve imhof, a bethelite in the 1970s and former very active elder who became a very vocal wt critic starting in 2002, was 65 years old when he died.
he was father to three children and two grandchildren.
Sorry to hear..
i've been here forever.... this site still gives us some of the most up to date info about jws .
it keeps evolving.
sometimes it is the place to be and i think that's especially true for newbies.
Over 11 years here, and the purpose for me is to ensure that I do not get wrapped up in the lie once again while I wait to muster up the courage to leave once and for all.
i have been reading the posts on who is and or had been an elder.
it amazes me at what many have said.
perhaps i have misunderstood what they were saying.
Bottom line is the sheep (the "loyal" sheep) are made to believe that what the elders say issues forth from God via his "appointed channel". You can quote whatever you want, say whatever you want, claim that there is no class system in the WTS but the preception is that the elders are in charge, with the Coordinator being the head elder (yes they have tried to change this but it hasn't really) and the CO is in charge of the elders.. so on and so forth. Up to our glorious mediator's to god, the GB. Oh and this whole system is approved by God so just shut up and deal with it.
a friend of mine recently had his co visit and in the elders meeting the co out-right asked the question: how are the friends doing in your cong.
as regards pursuing higher education?
the co continued...you know in view of all the counsel from the slave regarding the dangers.
A friend of mine recently had his CO visit and in the elders meeting the CO out-right asked the question: How are the friends doing in your cong. as regards pursuing higher education? The CO continued...You know in view of all the counsel from the slave regarding the dangers. Are parents being spiritually minded on making decisions about their children's future?
My friend said that the CO went on for 30 minutes with elders interjecting their thoughts on this certain brother or sister. Peppered by comments from the CO about how its a waste of time. Now my friend is a staunch JW and even he was taken aback by it. He has kids that are in High School so he is beginning to struggle a little with this issue. Anyway the point he took away from this is they are on the offensive with education. Do not expect to remain an elder, ms, or pioneer if you or your wife or kids want to better themselves by going to college. He said the whole tone seemed like the branch office was asking the CO's to put feelers out and try to determine how to attack this growing problem. I said ok, and when my visit comes up I would let him know what he says to us.
My take on it, expect a D.C. talk about it to followed up by a direct Watchtower outlining the evils of pursuing a higher education. I know they have been hammering at this for a while now but this is the first time in the 20 yrs that I have been serving that a CO directly asked about this subject. Lets see how this all plays out.
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