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  Meeting changes - just sad, pathetic

  by sir82 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok, so let's say you're on the gb.

  for years, you've been getting hundreds of reports from your hired ss agents, er, cos, about poor midweek meeting attendance, people not showing up for talks, crappy teaching from elders, etc.. so, you make the determination - ok!

  here's a couple of choices:.

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  XBEHERE

  I posted this on another thread but I think it belongs in this one:

  Comments that I heard after the meeting yesterday included: "what a nice change" "the organization really knows what we need at the proper time" "its more appealing...I think kids will relate better to the midweek meetings now" and so on and so forth.
  I am sure many of these people were simply saying what they thought they should say and then feel differently in private but its obvious that the GB succeeded again in making a major change (1 magazine a month..WOW) and not causing a ripple.
  Its being seen as progressive.

  It is sad and pathetic and the average rank and file see no problem with it. The brainwashing is so evident.
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  Is Watchtower beginning to buckle

  by Truthexplorer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  is wt beginning to buckle under the weight of everything that is happening?

  heavy criticism from the media and the plethora of websites and youtube videos popping up; and now the obvious issues with finances clearly evident.

  the pressure for change must be immense and therefore necessary!

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  XBEHERE

  I do think that the JW's parent organization is beginning to show signs of buckling, that much is clear. Problem is even with the letter read at congs yeterday most JWs simply dont get it.

  Comments that I heard after the meeting yesterday included: "what a nice change" "the organization really knows what we need at the proper time" "its more appealing...I think kids will relate better to the midweek meetings now" and so on and so forth.

  I am sure many of these people were simply saying what they thought they should say and then feel differently in private but its obvious that the GB succeeded again in making a major change (1 magazine a month..WOW) and not causing a ripple.

  Its being seen as progressive.
  
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  Any thoughts on the real reasons for droppng the 'school"

  by sparrowdown in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my thoughts are.

  1. they want to avoid being made to comply with any laws that come with anything classed as a "school" especially a school with children enrolled.. 2. the mid-week meeting has been dying in the ass for years and needs a revival.

  i predict happy -clappy-sing-a-longs to be included in the program.. anyone else have any thoughts ??

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  2. The mid-week meeting has been dying in the ass for years and needs a revival

  lol... that's a good one.
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  My Mom Is Dying

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just wanted to say that my dear 89 year old mom is terminally ill and will soon pass.

  she is on morphine and hanging on.

  she has been a devout witness for about 60 years and a wonderful mother.

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  XBEHERE

  Sorry to hear this Min.
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  09-21-2015 Letter to all BOE Re: Letter Dated Oct 4 2015

  by committeechairman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the "pre-letter" for the october 4 2015 letter is now posted to the jw.org for elders and it matches what had been leaked.. looks like we can confirm that the preliminary letter and the main letter are legitimate.. unbelievable!.

  cc.

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  XBEHERE

  That pre-letter was there a couple days ago and does not verify anything except that there will be another letter forthcoming dated October 4. That letter will release after 3PM EST on October 3. So although this is probably all valid information it is not verified yet.
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  Latest rumor - all WT construction "suspended", except for Warwick

  by sir82 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  heard 4th-hand, but from a full-on believer, so not likely to be an "apostate lie":.

  apparently, at bethel's morning worship this morning, it was announced that all worldwide wts construction is "suspended" for an indefinite time, except for the new world headquarters at warwick.. also, the "relocation" of remote translating teams is also suspended.. finally, there will be a "worldwide" reduction in bethel personnel.. all this came to me in a non-english language, and,as noted, 4th-hand.

  so it is possible something may have been lost in translation and/or in the multiple steps between bethel morning worship & me.. but if true, it would be quite stunning.

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  This is brilliant! They get rid of human bodies, living expenses, living quarters, and other money-sucking things like Bethel workers and healthcare, and instead subcontract out the Kitchen and Laundry services to an outside company for a fee. Brilliant!

  I agree especially the healthcare. They must be realizing that healthcare costs are ridiculous in particular with all these temp workers.
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  Are the Governing Body broadcasts promoted at Kingdom Hall meetings?

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a question for those still attending i guess but are all these new jw.telemuppet.org broadcasts advertised to the the rank and file or is it more of a background thing?.

  i'm wondering because i just can't believe my 70 year old die-hard jw mum would ever see them if she wasn't sat down in front of a screen and someone clicked 'play' for her.

  i really want her to see the wizards behind the curtain.

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  It depends on where you live. In my area, which is near the epicenter of the new "Most Holy" in NY, the bethelites mention points from the broadcast every chance that they get. In service, during their meeting parts, casual conversation. It is being pushed and if you cant add to the conversation and say how great it is then you will be left outside to rot.
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  another abuse that most JW children go through is severe "spankings" at the hall..is that still going on?

  by wwjdnwt in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i was born into the jw's religion.

  was an active jw for over 30 years.

  i remember when i was a child my mom would take me in the bathroom and switch me so hard with the nice little switch she got from the tree outside.

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  XBEHERE

  Still happens yes but not with the same ferocity that used to take place back in the 70's and 80's when I was growing up. I see more taking into the back room and staying there then the "spank and return to the seat".

  My mother in particular would lash out with wooden cooking spoons that she'd hide in her meeting bag. Ahhhh those fun memories
  
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  New letter, re: Fully Utilizing Kingdom Hall Auditoriums

  by suavojr in

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  2. friends

  let the merging begin!!!.

  to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territory.

  re: fully utilizing kingdom hall auditoriums.

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  XBEHERE

  Oh its real, I just downloaded and read it. This must be for area's where congregations are small. In my part of the U.S the attendance is too high to support the scenario mentioned in the letter. I might add, high as in inflated artificially due to circumstances taking place.
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  Interesting RC Experience

  by Blackfalcon98 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i recently attended the rc for my area.

  while there, i encountered a old family "friend" who recently lost her jw husband.

  as the interaction proceeds she relates that her grand daughter, who's around my age (early twenties) has "left jehovah".

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  XBEHERE

  Given all of the parts lately about children on the service meetings I would tend to agree. The GB sees a wound that is hemorrhaging the youth and they are trying to fill it quickly.

  Baptizing children so young suits no other agenda then to try and keep young ones in by emotional bribery. Its not even scriptural, nowhere can they justify child baptism period.