Posts by XBEHERE

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New Watchtower Propaganda and hate speech destroying families (Feb 2016 WT)

by Daniel1555 in

the following is a paragraph from the new february study watchtower article "learn from jehovah's loyal servants.".

7 a conflict of loyalties may arise when a close relative is disfellowshipped.

for example, a sister named anne [1] received a telephone call from her disfellowshipped mother.

XBEHERE

Shunning DF family members is wrong.

Prodigal son account from Luke 15:20-

So he got up and went to his father. While he was still a long way off, his father caught sight of him and was moved with pity, and he ran and embraced him* and tenderly kissed him.

It doesn't say that he saw him from far away and went to his COBE to discuss his son coming to the meetings and sitting in silence for 6-12 mos until men have deemed him worthy of "hello".

Funny though in a WT study article from December 2014 "Do You Grasp the Meaning?" on paragraph 13 they have this to say:

13 What is the meaning of Jesus’ illustration of the prodigal son? The compassionate father in this illustration pictures our loving heavenly Father, Jehovah.

So why does Jehovah choose to shun family members now? The prodigal son ran out of money... he wasn't repentant.

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Isn't it ironic that JDubs are the most judgmental people of all? You all know what I am talking about!

by macys in

matthew 7:1-5. do not judge, or you too will be judged.

2 for in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

3 why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brothers eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?

100% agree. Even among the so called elite JWs...elders, ms, etc. there is a class system. Brother Elder-Pioneer-Gives parts on assemblies, Brother Elder-doesn't pioneer but wife does also parts on assemblies. Brother Elder- doesn't pioneer, wife also works- no parts. Bother Elder-doesn't pioneer, raising kids, no assembly parts...you get the idea. Its all B/S. Happiest people on earth... lol

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My mom passed away yesterday....

by minimus in

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friends

thank you all for your sincere encouragement during these last few weeks.

finally, she is at peace.

i was with her , holding her hand when she died.

XBEHERE

sorry to hear min. peace be with you

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It's not the same religion anymore.

by punkofnice in

that was a quote from a dyed in the wool jw recently.

it was a complaint.. we all know that with 'new light(tm)' that the watchtower corporation's version of 'religion' has kept changing for a long time.

since i remember.....and i go back a long way too.

XBEHERE

It isn't. My JW Wife commented to me after the big mid-week meeting announcement "are we still called JW's anymore??" of course that flash of independent thinking is quickly shoved aside with comments such as "well this might keep the kids more interested.."

I think this was the reaction of most JWs to these changes initial shock, a knee-jerk reaction that is quickly stifled by cognitive dissonance. They then adapt, tow the line, and look down on those who don't.

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Meeting changes - just sad, pathetic

by sir82 in

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ok, so let's say you're on the gb.

for years, you've been getting hundreds of reports from your hired ss agents, er, cos, about poor midweek meeting attendance, people not showing up for talks, crappy teaching from elders, etc.. so, you make the determination - ok!

here's a couple of choices:.

XBEHERE

I posted this on another thread but I think it belongs in this one:

Comments that I heard after the meeting yesterday included: "what a nice change" "the organization really knows what we need at the proper time" "its more appealing...I think kids will relate better to the midweek meetings now" and so on and so forth.
I am sure many of these people were simply saying what they thought they should say and then feel differently in private but its obvious that the GB succeeded again in making a major change (1 magazine a month..WOW) and not causing a ripple.
Its being seen as progressive.

It is sad and pathetic and the average rank and file see no problem with it. The brainwashing is so evident.

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Is Watchtower beginning to buckle

by Truthexplorer in

is wt beginning to buckle under the weight of everything that is happening?

heavy criticism from the media and the plethora of websites and youtube videos popping up; and now the obvious issues with finances clearly evident.

the pressure for change must be immense and therefore necessary!

XBEHERE

I do think that the JW's parent organization is beginning to show signs of buckling, that much is clear. Problem is even with the letter read at congs yeterday most JWs simply dont get it.

Comments that I heard after the meeting yesterday included: "what a nice change" "the organization really knows what we need at the proper time" "its more appealing...I think kids will relate better to the midweek meetings now" and so on and so forth.

I am sure many of these people were simply saying what they thought they should say and then feel differently in private but its obvious that the GB succeeded again in making a major change (1 magazine a month..WOW) and not causing a ripple.

Its being seen as progressive.

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Any thoughts on the real reasons for droppng the 'school"

by sparrowdown in

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friends

my thoughts are.

1. they want to avoid being made to comply with any laws that come with anything classed as a "school" especially a school with children enrolled.. 2. the mid-week meeting has been dying in the ass for years and needs a revival.

i predict happy -clappy-sing-a-longs to be included in the program.. anyone else have any thoughts ??

XBEHERE

2. The mid-week meeting has been dying in the ass for years and needs a revival

lol... that's a good one.

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My Mom Is Dying

by minimus in

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friends

i just wanted to say that my dear 89 year old mom is terminally ill and will soon pass.

she is on morphine and hanging on.

she has been a devout witness for about 60 years and a wonderful mother.

XBEHERE

Sorry to hear this Min.

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09-21-2015 Letter to all BOE Re: Letter Dated Oct 4 2015

by committeechairman in

the "pre-letter" for the october 4 2015 letter is now posted to the jw.org for elders and it matches what had been leaked.. looks like we can confirm that the preliminary letter and the main letter are legitimate.. unbelievable!.

cc.

XBEHERE

That pre-letter was there a couple days ago and does not verify anything except that there will be another letter forthcoming dated October 4. That letter will release after 3PM EST on October 3. So although this is probably all valid information it is not verified yet.

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Latest rumor - all WT construction "suspended", except for Warwick

by sir82 in

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friends

heard 4th-hand, but from a full-on believer, so not likely to be an "apostate lie":.

apparently, at bethel's morning worship this morning, it was announced that all worldwide wts construction is "suspended" for an indefinite time, except for the new world headquarters at warwick.. also, the "relocation" of remote translating teams is also suspended.. finally, there will be a "worldwide" reduction in bethel personnel.. all this came to me in a non-english language, and,as noted, 4th-hand.

so it is possible something may have been lost in translation and/or in the multiple steps between bethel morning worship & me.. but if true, it would be quite stunning.

XBEHERE

This is brilliant! They get rid of human bodies, living expenses, living quarters, and other money-sucking things like Bethel workers and healthcare, and instead subcontract out the Kitchen and Laundry services to an outside company for a fee. Brilliant!

I agree especially the healthcare. They must be realizing that healthcare costs are ridiculous in particular with all these temp workers.