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  The Word of the Day is Inculcate

  by GoddessRachel in

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  i have a word of the day emailed to me and this one brought back memories.

  this is one of the words i used to tally in my notebook at assemblies and meetings to count how many times they used it in a talk (and to pass the time):.

  word of the day for tuesday, january 15, 2008inculcate \in-kuhl-kayt; in-kuhl-kayt\, transitive verb:.

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  NeonMadman

  I'm seeing some heavy emotional reactions in this thead in reaction to the single word "inculcate." What's really ironic is that the word actually appears only once in the NWT, at Deut. 6:7. It's almost amazing that the WTS can hammer away at a single point and stretch it so far as to affect people's lives so profoundly, when it's really not something the Bible talks about to a great extent. I acknowledge, of course, that the Bible talks about child-rearing in many other places without using the word, "inculcate," but the WTS has perverted the concept into a frenzy of control that has damaged many lives.
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  Dress and grooming guidelines for LDS sisters ....

  by Frequent_Fader_Miles in

  1. jw
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  check these guidelines out.

  they're so detailed that even the acceptable color of underwear is given.

  http://www.mtc.byu.edu/doc/sisterscouples.pdf.

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  NeonMadman

  it's still control freak bull shit.

  Didn't mean to imply that it wasn't. I was just saying that the JW's would probably be even bigger control freaks, given the chance.

  To be fair, why should the color of a Mormon missionary's underwear even matter?!

  Same reason that it matters whether male JW's wear beards or not. Submission to the organization. See the first quotation above.
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  Dress and grooming guidelines for LDS sisters ....

  by Frequent_Fader_Miles in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  check these guidelines out.

  they're so detailed that even the acceptable color of underwear is given.

  http://www.mtc.byu.edu/doc/sisterscouples.pdf.

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  NeonMadman

  To be fair, these are guidelines for women who are Mormon missionaries, directly representing the church before the public. They are not set forth as standards for all Mormon women. If this were from the WTS, you know perfectly well that ALL the "sisters" would be expected to conform, probably all the time. The JW ideal is still June Cleaver, who wore a dress and high heels to dust the house.
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  Do JW's avoid adopting pets because the end is just around the corner?

  by JH in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  since a cat or dog can live up to 15 years or more, and most jw's think that the end is less than 15 years away, what's their thinking on this?

  will they avoid adopting a pet because of this?.

  i remember thinking that my cat would survive armageddon because i was a dub.....

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  NeonMadman

  Some avoid having pets because the time involved in caring for pets would detract from the amount of time available for field service. Excuse me while I hurl...
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  Forever Young -- Alphaville -- Former anthem -- How embarrasingly sad

  by Open mind in

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  anyone else feel the same way?

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  NeonMadman

  one of my favorite sappy songs of all time: Joan Baez's "Forever Young."

  Joanie may have sung that one, but it's a Bob Dylan song through and through. Interestingly, he is said to have written it in celebration of the birth of his son Jakob, who is now the lead singer for the Wallflowers.
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  Sound Familiar

  by free2beme in

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  my sister-in-law's roommate and her are both witness woman who are in their 30's, never married, witnesses and lonely.

  while i feel sorry for them, i have long since been telling the family that they should not have such a narrow view of available men, as the world is a big place.

  something that is very irritating to witnesses, to hear.

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  NeonMadman

  Well that was December 21, 2007. His divorce is final next week and they told the family they are getting married in February.

  According to WT rules, they shouldn't be dating at all yet anyway:

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  IhavebeenreadingTheWatchtowerforafewmonthsnow,andIwouldappreciateyourcounsel.RecentlyIsuedforadivorceonwhatIunderstandtobegroundsthatareinharmonywiththeBible.IsitScripturallywrongformeto"date"orseektheattentionofoneoftheoppositesexotherthanmyex-matebeforethedivorceisfinal?—U.S.A.

  It would first be good to have fixed clearly in mind what the Bible has to say about divorce. According to God’s Word, the only ground for divorce that frees one for remarriage is adultery by one’s mate. (Matt. 19:9) Jesus did not say one can divorce his mate if he ‘strongly suspects’ that adultery was committed. There has to be real evidence of adultery, such as the mate’s confession, or proof that the mate stayed all night with a person of the opposite sex under improper circumstances.—Prov. 5:8-11.

  A legal divorce obtained where there is no proof of adultery might end a marriage legally, but in God’s sight it does not free one for remarriage. (Mark 10:9) If one got a legal divorce without proof of the mate’s adultery, remarriage would amount to adultery in Jehovah’s eyes. We read: "Whoever divorces his wife [without evidence of adultery] and marries another commits adultery against her, and if ever a woman, after divorcing her husband, marries another, she commits adultery."—Mark 10:11, 12; compare Matthew 19:9.

  Now, assuming that one actually has a Scriptural basis for the legal divorce that is being obtained, he still is not in position to "date" or "court" someone else if the divorce is not final. He is still married. Divorce laws differ from place to place. In some lands and states the parties to a divorce action are completely and legally free immediately. In other places the divorce does not become effective for six months. In yet other places, the divorce does not become final for quite a period, such as a year, after a temporary or interlocutory decree is granted.

  Concerning this last type in one state, a lawbook says: "Interlocutory decree is entered after trial if the court finds that a divorce should be granted. . . . This stands for one year, during which time the parties are still husband and wife. . . . The final judgment restores the parties to the status of single persons." Thus a period of time is allowed in order that a reconciliation may be worked out, if that is possible. If that fails, the parties become legally free only after the final decree has been entered.

  In the case giving rise to the question, the divorce has not become final, so both parties are still legally married, and the court is allowing time to see if they can be reconciled. So it should be obvious that one in such a position is not free to act as if he were a single person able to "court" and marry another person. To do so would only be courting trouble, both legally and Scripturally. (Heb. 13:4) Only after a divorce becomes final, and a final decree is entered, if that is necessary according to law, will one be at liberty to act as a single person and be free to remarry.

  One in this circumstance who is interested in doing what will have God’s approval would do well to note what Jehovah has counseled about marrying, in case he wants to remarry after the present marriage ends legally and Scripturally. God commanded his servants that they should not consent to a marriage between a true worshiper and one who did not worship Jehovah in accord with the truth of his Word. (Deut. 7:3; Neh. 10:30) Marrying an unbeliever can lead to God’s disapproval, as it did with King Solomon of Israel. (1 Ki. 11:4, 9) God’s Word says that true Christians are to marry "only in the Lord," or only other true Christians. (1 Cor. 7:39) Though that limits one’s association with marriage in view, it can work to one’s everlasting good by helping one to secure a place in the paradise that God will soon establish on earth.

  By continuing to study the Bible and Scriptural publications one can learn what Jehovah’s will is and how one can serve Him acceptably in company with his Witnesses. At present, the questioner is yet a married person and should resist any temptations to develop emotional attachments to some single person. And if after the divorce is final he is interested in remarriage, he should be sure to seek a mate who will serve Jehovah faithfully. Such a course will have heaven’s blessing.—Prov. 10:22.
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  Jehovah Witness and honesty

  by megaflower in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i spent 20 long years in the society.

  the one thing they pounded into your head esp at convention time is honesty.

  jehovah's people are the most honest in all the earth.

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  NeonMadman

  If you think Witnesses are the most honest people in the world, the next time one comes to the door, ask them one of these questions:

  Do you believe that everyone who isn't part of your religion will be destroyed by God?

  Would you allow your child to die because of refusing a blood transfusion?

  Has your organization ever predicted dates for the end of the world?

  For what reasons do you disfellowship people from your organization?

  Does your organization have policies that protect pedophiles?

  Is it true your organization was affiliated with the UN for several years?

  Then see how honest the answers you get are.
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  Warning to GPS owners-incorrect travel info-car destroyed

  by worldtraveller in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  good tool gone bad.

  http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22493399/wid/11915829?gt1=10841

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  NeonMadman

  This post is mis-titled. There was nothing incorrect about the travel info. The directions were correct. The function of a GPS unit is to give directions, not to notify the driver of existing road conditions. The driver was an idiot and his car got destroyed as a result of his idiocy. In no way should the GPS be considered to be at fault.
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  Deductive Reasoning

  by watson in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for those that have trouble with the wts's deductive reasoning, please enjoy the watchtower comments for today's text.. http://examiningthescripturesdaily.blogspot.com/.

  it's a real "jaw dropper.

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  NeonMadman

  Thus, it seems that resurrected ones of the 24-elders group may be involved in the communicating of divine truths today.

  So they still admit that the leadership of their organization engages in necromancy, receiving information from those members of the anointed class who have died.
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  So who went out in field service on Christmas?

  by mavie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my congregation would have a special service day on all holidays, including christmas.

  in order to avoid knocking to early on homeowners doors we would meet at 10am instead of 9:30am.

  we would always have the hardcore group ready ard raring to go on dec 25th.

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  NeonMadman

  I remember going out one Christmas morning with a Kingdom News tract entitled, "Has Religion Betrayed God and Man?" It was an interesting morning, to say the least. One guy in particular took the tract, read the title, and looked at me and said, "You people got a lotta stones, you know that?" - then shut the door.