If they gave a citation, you would be able to check the context of the quotation and find out that it doesn't really say what they are trying to make it say. That would never do.
NeonMadman
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Is it normal to quote without naming the source like WT does?
by InterestedOne ini am noticing here and there that the wt literature will say things like "one bible dictionary says ..." or "one scholar says ..." and then proceed with a quotation.
my immediate reaction is to ask myself why they didn't provide the specific source of the quote - author, publication, page #, etc.
so i am wondering, do other magazines do this?
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The Lord Of The Rings and other fairy-tales
by XPeterX indamn,many jws claim that lord of the rings is "demonic" "satanic" "promotes spiritualism" and that fairies,goblins,trolls and other fantasy creatures are satan's minions and that we should not read/watch etc anything like that.however,elves and the rest are not real and the stories are fictional.can't a jw read a sci-fi or fantasy book?pffff.
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NeonMadman
This thread surprises me a bit. When I was a teen JW, I and most of my friends were big fans of LOTR, and nobody in the congregation had a problem with it (unlike some of the other things we liked, e.g. rock music).
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I thought that witnesses were the only religion that uses this name
by man in black ini was browsing some of the businesses and schools that already closed since the big blizzard is going to hit tomorrow.. one thing caught my eye : .
jehovah lutheran school.
chicago.
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NeonMadman
If you examine religious literature of the 19th century, before the JW's got rolling, you find the name "Jehovah" used quite commonly; in some circles, almost as liberally as in a Watchtower publication today. I think there are two reasons you don't see "Jehovah" used quite as much today: the first is scholarship, which has concluded that "Yahweh" is probably a more accurate form of the divine name. The second reason is the reproach that the JW's have brought on the name of Jehovah with their false teachings, false prophecies, scandals and general weirdness. I think churches have shied away from using "Jehovah" as often, lest they be mistaken for the cult that has so identified itself with that name.
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Smurf Rumors - 2 Questions
by A question inas the board no doubt knows, there was some sort of rumor in the early 1980s going around amongst the witnesses that a smurf doll came to life in the kingdom hall, or that smurfs were demonic.. 2 questions:.
1. do any not remember any such rumors though they were witnesses at the time?.
2. of those who do, did all the witnesses believe them, or otherwise, what proportion rejected the rumor as nonsense?.
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NeonMadman
BTW, I also remember the Smurfs being mentioned on a circuit assembly part as NOT being demonic, in connection with the idea that JW's should not spread unfounded rumors. The real basis of the part was the alleged subliminal pictures that had been appearing in the WT publications. In admonishing the brothers not to pass on rumors about the subliminal images, they gave the Smurfs a pass.
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Smurf Rumors - 2 Questions
by A question inas the board no doubt knows, there was some sort of rumor in the early 1980s going around amongst the witnesses that a smurf doll came to life in the kingdom hall, or that smurfs were demonic.. 2 questions:.
1. do any not remember any such rumors though they were witnesses at the time?.
2. of those who do, did all the witnesses believe them, or otherwise, what proportion rejected the rumor as nonsense?.
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NeonMadman
I heard all the rumors about Smurfs back then, and I thought they were idiotic, especially in light of all the other "magic" stories that JW's have no problem with enjoying as entertainment. I never knew any Witnesses who forbade their kids to watch The Wizard of Oz, despite the presence of evil witches. And I never knew any Witnesses who had a problem with taking their kids to the Magic Kingdom of Disney World. But Smurfs, for some reason were seen as evil. I would never have let me bother it at all, except that my (now ex-)wife was absolutely fanatical about any hint involving demons, so she made our daughter throw away everything in the house that had a Smurf on it, including a brand-new drum set that her uncle had given her. I wasn't sorry to see the drum set go, but it wasn't because of the Smurfs. It just shows the way that some Witnesses were back then (and, from what I gather, they are even more dumbed-down and fanatical now).
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Anyone from the Hudson Valley/Mid- Hudson valley (NY) Area?
by Invetigator74 inanyone from the hudson/ mid-hudson valley (ny) area?
this area is probably considered wt country (wallkill, patterson and probably monroe) lol..
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NeonMadman
I live in northern New Jersey and am up that way fairly often, since I'm a salesman and that part of NY state is part of my territory.
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NeonMadman
She'll probably sue the mall.
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Celebrating birthday: ground for disfellowshipping?
by behemot ina friend of mine (inactive) is being threatened with a judicial committee because he took his children to schoolmates' birthdays and because he celebrated his wife's birthday.. do you know if celebrating birthday is sufficient ground for setting a judicial committee?.
the ks2010 does not mention birthdays specifically, and i feel like it would be quite a stretch to make it fall under the "apostasy" category (subcategory "celebrating false religion holidays" or "idolatry").. what do you think?.
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NeonMadman
I think that a judicial committee can be convened and a person disfellowshipped for anything that 3 elders can agree that those actions should be taken for.
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Do you still know your bible?
by Newborn ini used to pioneer and all that and new the bible well and could cite scriptures backwards and forwards...(i regret i didn't have any other skills to brag abt).
today i hardly recall any scriptures...(except for matt 24:14 that may never go away though ).
since i left i haven't opened a bible ones.
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NeonMadman
Most JW's don't really know their Bibles. What they know is a list of proof texts for a variety of doctrines, many taken out of context. Ask them to defend their beliefs by a thorough exegesis of a passage of text, and they will come up scratching their heads.
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4/15/11 Watchtower--quote on ministerial servants
by sd-7 inso did anyone notice the statement on page 11, paragraph 11?
"if a brother has been baptized at least one year and to a reasonable degree meets the scriptural qualifications fo rministerial servants outlined at 1 timothy 3:8-13, he can be recommended for appointment.
" i thought paul specifically warned against appointing a "newly converted man"?
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NeonMadman
I seem to remember that it was a minimum of a year many years ago when I became a JW. They may have done away with the specific requirement at some point, but it was always intended as a minimum time to become a MS, not the norm. Not many people became MS's after only a year of baptism, but it was possible for an exceptional person. Before a year, it was out of the question, no matter how good you were. I agree that it is a fairly short time, but given that MS's are basically gophers in the JW organization and not really men with spiritual responsibilities, as deacons in a Protestant church would be, I guess it makes little difference.