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  Wtbts was an NGO w/ UN, what about the other Harlots?

  by notjustyet in

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  wtbts was an ngo w/ un, what about the other harlots?

  i was driving down the road today and was running the scenarios of jw folklore and how it is wrong, wrong, wrong!.

  for some reason i drift over to the un wtbts ngo ( i know right?

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  NeonMadman

  There is nothing intrinsically or biblically wrong with a religious organization being an NGO affiliate with the UN. The problem is that the WTS teaches that the UN is the "image of the wild beast" and is of Satan, then nonetheless decided to become affiliated with it for its own selfish reasons. None of the other religious organizations you listed proclaim such a teaching about the UN, therefore they are not acting hypocritically in aligning themselves with it. Only the JWs brand themselves as hypocrites by their actions.

  It's as if you went around every day telling people that hamburgers are of the devil and Christians should have nothing to do with hamburgers, then one day, we found you at McDonald's scarfing down Quarter Pounders. The rest of us don't believe that there is anything wrong with eating hamburgers, so we are not acting hypocritically by eating at McDonald's - only you are, since it is your own proclaimed standard that you are violating.
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  Rumors-that circulated about you ( when you left.)

  by Pitchess Co-Gen in

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  it seems they can't even let you get disfellowshipped in peace !

  i've been out for three years now, and i heard that i'm a whack job, i'm gay ( i'm married with a son ), that i lied on a judicial committee, and these rumors were started by my ex-fiance and her meddling congregation.

  when i heard about these things i called my p.o or c.o.t.b.e ( mind you i'm disfellowshipped when i called ) .

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  You deserved to be slandered by people who are supposed to be Christians?
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  Jehovah's Witnesses never claimed to be Prophets

  by anonread in

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrtvycqmsey&feature=colike.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrtvycqmsey&feature=colike.

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  NeonMadman

  In Biblical terms, a prophet is one who speaks for God, one into whose mouth God has put His messages. They certainly can't say that they never claimed that.
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  "Scriptural divorce"

  by ilikecheese in

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  so i was talking to my boyfriend about the whole jw scriptural divorce idea.

  i made the point initally that i think when jesus was talking about reasons to get divorced, he was more or less just trying to discourage divorce for frivilous reasons.

  you have to admit that there are a lot of people out there who just don't put much effort into it and just give up.

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  NeonMadman

  I knew after I posted it that someone would pick me up on that wording...
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  "Scriptural divorce"

  by ilikecheese in

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  so i was talking to my boyfriend about the whole jw scriptural divorce idea.

  i made the point initally that i think when jesus was talking about reasons to get divorced, he was more or less just trying to discourage divorce for frivilous reasons.

  you have to admit that there are a lot of people out there who just don't put much effort into it and just give up.

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  NeonMadman

  I think that the WTS would distinguish between actual, physical adultery and adultery "in the heart." While both would be condemned as wrong, and while some types of pornography can even be grounds for disfellowshipping, I think they would contend that if no "actual" (i.e., physical) adultery had occurred, there would be no grounds for divorce.

  As far as needing two witnesses for adultery, that would only apply if the person being accused denied that he/she had committed adultery. However, remember that judicial committees will accept as proof of immorality two witnesses to the fact that the accused "stayed all night in the same house with a person of the opposite sex (or a known homosexual) under improper circumstances." (Shepherd the Flock of God, p. 129, emphasis theirs). So if two elders hide in the bushes outside a woman's house and see a man to whom she is not married enter in the evening and leave in the morning, that may be all they need, even if he was just there to repair her plumbing.
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  How many times can one be DFed? Is there a limit?

  by paulnotsaul in

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  i always wondered what's the point if they'll keep reinstating you.

  jw version of a catholic confession?

  peaceall paulnotsaul.

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  NeonMadman

  Seems mmore likely to me that there would be a limit on the number of times you can be reinstated. They are always more than happy to toss you out.
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  My Profile Picture

  by NeonMadman in

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  i like that picture a lot.

  i was a bit thinner then, my hair had rather less gray in it.

  it was taken when i was swimming with the dolphins on a shore excursion during a cruise in 2007. nonetheless, i look somewhat different now.

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  NeonMadman

  Maybe I'm technologically impaired. I've set up a Gravatar account and uploaded a few pictures, but how do I get the pictures over here?
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  My Profile Picture

  by NeonMadman in

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  i like that picture a lot.

  i was a bit thinner then, my hair had rather less gray in it.

  it was taken when i was swimming with the dolphins on a shore excursion during a cruise in 2007. nonetheless, i look somewhat different now.

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  NeonMadman

  I like that picture a lot. I was a bit thinner then, my hair had rather less gray in it. It was taken when I was swimming with the dolphins on a shore excursion during a cruise in 2007. Nonetheless, I look somewhat different now. I've often thought that I should replace it with something more recent, but for the life of me, I haven't been able to figure out how to change my profile picture. Can anybody give me the Complete Idiot's Guide to Changing Your Profile Picture on JWN?
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  Is the 10 Hour Per Month Requirement Still In Force?

  by Conan The Barbarian in

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  are there any active elders/ms or higher out there who can advise if one of the requirements for appointment is that the person's fs time is equal to or greater than either the congregation's average or the national average?

  this used to be the case, but may have been relaxed.

  also is the branch still approving appointments?

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  NeonMadman

  The "national average" concept always struck me as a bit of a scam, even when I was a JW. The definition of an average requires that half the people fall below it. If everybody made the national average, the national average would increase, at which time the publishers would be encouraged to strive for the NEW national average, thus driving it up more and more. If it worked the way the WTS would like it to, it would result in ever-increasing demands on the publishers that they could never manage to keep up with. Oh, wait, the organization is already like that. Never mind...
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  Emmanuel Goldstein

  by d in

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  in george orwell's 1984 the percieved enemy emmanuel goldstein wrote a book called theory and practice of oligarchical collectivism in where on one one number he talks ignorace as source of strength for the people in control.. this says lot about the jw's and people in power.. the theory and practice of oligarchical collectivism.

  chapter i - ignorance is strength.

  throughout recorded time, and probably since the end of the neolithic age, there have been three kinds of people in the world, the high, the middle, and the low.

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  NeonMadman

  In the novel 1984, it seems pretty obvious that Goldstein didn't really exist, but was a creation of the Party as a focal point to attract those who were less than loyal. The document you have shared was written by some Party member and its distribution controlled by the Party in order to smoke out dissenters. I'm surprised the Society hasn't thought of an equivalent scheme - creating their own "apostate" literature and controlling its distribution so as to identify those who are not fully on board with the program.