Posts by Ucantnome

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Looking Back In Retrospect To 1975...

by titch in

greetings, folks: so, it's been 40 years since 1975. and, if you were actively involved with the witnesses back then, the mindset of many was, that by early autumn of 1975, it would mark the anniversary of 6000 years of human existence.

and, the hope was then, that it would mark the start of the 1000-year of christ, from the heavenly realm.

but, looking back now, 40 years ago, in june of 1975, only 3 more months remained until early autumn.

Ucantnome

Fisherman,

I read it. It does not say that. It says that the first half was now closing, 3500 years after the creation of Adam and Eve. 3500 + 3500 = 7000 years. So the other half: 526-3500= 2974 CE - 1000 = 1974

Maybe this helps

In the August 15 1968 Watchtower in the Article Why are you looking forward to 1975?

page 499
Well, for one thing, if 4026 is added to 1968 (allowing for the lack of a zero year between C.E. and B.C.E ) one gets a total of 5,993 years, come this autumn from Adam's creation. That means that, in the fall of the year 1975, a little over seven years from now..., it will be 6,000 years since the creation of Adam,

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Looking Back In Retrospect To 1975...

by titch in

greetings, folks: so, it's been 40 years since 1975. and, if you were actively involved with the witnesses back then, the mindset of many was, that by early autumn of 1975, it would mark the anniversary of 6000 years of human existence.

and, the hope was then, that it would mark the start of the 1000-year of christ, from the heavenly realm.

but, looking back now, 40 years ago, in june of 1975, only 3 more months remained until early autumn.

Ucantnome

The WT no longer teach that each creative day is 7000 years long.

I don't think they would dismiss the calculations that lead back to Adam in 4026 and in still teaching 1914 and the nearness of the end and then the thousand year reign surely this would make the 7th creative day about 7000 years long so there is one at least.

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Looking Back In Retrospect To 1975...

by titch in

greetings, folks: so, it's been 40 years since 1975. and, if you were actively involved with the witnesses back then, the mindset of many was, that by early autumn of 1975, it would mark the anniversary of 6000 years of human existence.

and, the hope was then, that it would mark the start of the 1000-year of christ, from the heavenly realm.

but, looking back now, 40 years ago, in june of 1975, only 3 more months remained until early autumn.

Ucantnome

i think there is something that makes it 1975 year 0 or something

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Looking Back In Retrospect To 1975...

by titch in

greetings, folks: so, it's been 40 years since 1975. and, if you were actively involved with the witnesses back then, the mindset of many was, that by early autumn of 1975, it would mark the anniversary of 6000 years of human existence.

and, the hope was then, that it would mark the start of the 1000-year of christ, from the heavenly realm.

but, looking back now, 40 years ago, in june of 1975, only 3 more months remained until early autumn.

Ucantnome

Fisherman

The creation of Eve was the unknown variable when discussing 1975 " as the end of the 6000 years.." Nevertheless, a lot of people hoped that 1975 would be "the end," and the farther away from Kings County, the more people believed in their minds that 1975 would be "the end"

I don't understand what you mean by the further away from Kings County, the more people believed in their minds that 1975 would be "the end"?

In the book Gods Eternal Purpose Now Triumphing for Man's Good. (1974) page 131/132

'The first half or evening period of Gods seventh creative day was now closing, 3500 years from the creation of Adam and Eve, The morning of this creative day was due to begin at 526 BCE.'

page 186

'..hurling them into the abyss and sealing them up there, bound as with chains for the next thousand.Revelations 20;1-3 pictures this, not as a part of the war at Har- Magedon, but as a follow up of that war.'

This was the newest light and I would understand that from the first quote you can understand that the 7th creative day ended 3500 years after 526 BCE and the second quote shows that Har-mageddon would not be part of the thousand years that Satan was abyssed and since Satan to my knowledge had not been abyssed by 1974 it left little time for Har-mageddon.

I don't see what this has to do with being near or far from Kings county maybe i am missing understanding something?

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Looking Back In Retrospect To 1975...

by titch in

greetings, folks: so, it's been 40 years since 1975. and, if you were actively involved with the witnesses back then, the mindset of many was, that by early autumn of 1975, it would mark the anniversary of 6000 years of human existence.

and, the hope was then, that it would mark the start of the 1000-year of christ, from the heavenly realm.

but, looking back now, 40 years ago, in june of 1975, only 3 more months remained until early autumn.

Ucantnome

when 1975 had past and although I believed the tribulation would start by then and had made adjustments in my life in line with the belief it never really mattered to me because now in retrospect I think the belief in the tribulation before the generation passed away teaching was stronger and i think that was due to faith in the good news that we preached regarding the establishment of God's kingdom in 1914 and the further fulfilment of Isaiah 11;10 which was evidence strengthening my faith and years later the same verse was central to my leaving the witnesses

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Looking Back In Retrospect To 1975...

by titch in

greetings, folks: so, it's been 40 years since 1975. and, if you were actively involved with the witnesses back then, the mindset of many was, that by early autumn of 1975, it would mark the anniversary of 6000 years of human existence.

and, the hope was then, that it would mark the start of the 1000-year of christ, from the heavenly realm.

but, looking back now, 40 years ago, in june of 1975, only 3 more months remained until early autumn.

Ucantnome

So, looking back in retrospect, do you remember anything---ANYTHING at all---that was happening on the world scene, that you would have thought, "Yeah, this is it, the Great Tribulation will soon be here, and the start of Armageddon"? Can you recall anything at all that would have caused you to think that? I can't. I can't recall anything of great significance that would have caused me to think along those lines. How about you? Let me know. Best regards, everyone!

I believe that 1975 was a Jubilee/Holy year beginning in December 1974 for the Roman Catholics.

I don't recall any specific world events that made me feel that this is the start of the tribulation. However I did believe that 1975 would be the beginning of the end, like the days of Noah they were eating and drinking etc. which seems life was relatively normal.

I think that looking back on an historical date is quite different from actually being there, When my parents were baptised the belief was that the tribulation had started in 1914 and there was a pause, Armageddon could start at any time. The brother who studied with my parents evidently said that one day you will turn on the radio you will realise by some news event that Armageddon has started. I think there may have been some influence of this thinking even though the belief regarding the tribulation had changed.

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How do you manage to keep JW friendships after you left the organization?

by Bonsai in

jw
friends

it seems incredibly difficult.

those who leave the org.

(or fade) no longer have anything in common with jehovah's witnesses, nor do they want to stick around to get radiated by the fear and guilt that saturates every aspect of a witnesses' life.. i've lost all but one of my jw friends quite simply because i can no longer condone the evil things that they condone.

Ucantnome

with difficulty

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Is there a difference between being pardoned or acquitted

by Ucantnome in

in the new world translation of the holy scriptures (revised 2013) at romans 6:7 it uses the word 'acquitted'.

in the kingdom interlinear translation of the greek scriptures (1985) it also has 'acquitted' and in the greek word for english word translation part in has 'has been justified' .

the insight on the scriptures (1988) under the heading declare righteous page 803 talking about the original greek words that are translated as justify and justification and can be translated as declared righteous and pronounce righteous it says,.

Ucantnome

The word "acquitted" used here by the Watchtower translator[s], is interesting. As mentioned above the word is closely allied to the concept of "justification" or "declaring righteous", but most translators feel that that the analogy of slavery is pertinent. A slave owner had authority over a slave only while the latter was alive. But once that slave was dead, the owner no longer exercised any authority over him.

Thanks moggy lover

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"We Already Forgive Him" - What Does That Mean?

by cofty in

the children of one of yesterday's shooting have told the media that they have already forgiven the killer for what he did.. dylaan roof has not apologised for what he did.

he hates black people and probably regrets not killing even more.. what does it really mean to forgive?.

if the legal system asked the victims relatives what they want done next would they ask for dylaan to go free and unpunished?.

Ucantnome

ok, well, I guess I don't have a Christian view then.

I think you probably do have a Christian view just a different and probably a better view than my own.

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Is there a difference between being pardoned or acquitted

by Ucantnome in

in the new world translation of the holy scriptures (revised 2013) at romans 6:7 it uses the word 'acquitted'.

in the kingdom interlinear translation of the greek scriptures (1985) it also has 'acquitted' and in the greek word for english word translation part in has 'has been justified' .

the insight on the scriptures (1988) under the heading declare righteous page 803 talking about the original greek words that are translated as justify and justification and can be translated as declared righteous and pronounce righteous it says,.

Ucantnome

I read last night that the word in Romans 6:7 translated as justified can translated or can mean free. I don't know how they know this. Maybe they have a first century dictionary