Posts by Ucantnome

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Identity Theft

by Jerryh in

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this forum offers the stories of folks with as many variations as there are folks and a “great crowd” of lurkers whose stories may never be offered.

i am an outsider with a broken heart for some insiders that i love more than they know.

after reading nearly every “apostate” book ever written, lurking, being worn out searching the wt cd, i have come to an idea that i present for your appraisal..

Ucantnome

Would you have to leave to do that?

Yes i think so as if you identify yourself as a JW you identify with the good news that they preach

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Preaching = Salvation... NOPE!

by Divergent in

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today's text:.

monday, january 25. to the extent that you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.—matt.

25:40.. early in his discourse found in matthew chapters 24 and 25, jesus indicated that the sign of his presence would include a remarkable feature—the good news of the kingdom would “be preached in all the inhabited earth.” (matt.

Ucantnome

or not

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Preaching = Salvation... NOPE!

by Divergent in

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today's text:.

monday, january 25. to the extent that you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.—matt.

25:40.. early in his discourse found in matthew chapters 24 and 25, jesus indicated that the sign of his presence would include a remarkable feature—the good news of the kingdom would “be preached in all the inhabited earth.” (matt.

Ucantnome

last elder I spoke to told me it doesn't matter if the good news is correct.

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"There will be earthquakes...."

by Fisherman in

given: the prophecy is true.. what did jesus mean?

i have an app that alerts me of any earthquake all over the world.

since i got the app, it is one earthquake after another all over the world.

Ucantnome

I remember reading it as a kid, i was going to show another kid at school and was stunned, I didn't share the composite sign idea with him.

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I was ashamed

by Happeanna in

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i was once a person who believed in god destroying 7 billion people so a few people could live in paradise.. when the penny finally dropped and i realised what as a jehovah's witnesses i was really praying for , it made me feel sick.

what is attractive about a person that prays for this world to end .

i was ashamed to have been a witness deeply ashamed .

Ucantnome

no i'm not ashamed

I was trying to help people and nothing to do with a few people living in paradise, it was open to all I never felt that i was guaranteed a place any more than anyone else.

We were looking forward to an earth where righteousness was to prevail

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Types attracted to the sect known as jehovahs witnesses.

by atomant in

l have observed the types of people attracted to the sect are many times unbalanced,unstable,emotionally insecure types.the jdubs seem to home in like vulchers circling the prey ,preying on the vulnerables.they tried it on me when my father who was an elder died.promising that if you become a dub you will one day see him again.l said how can you promise that when you keep making false misleading predictions.l was wondering if others have observed this phenomenon.

Ucantnome

my father was into politics and knew some high ups he wanted a better world i think

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"If I wasn't born a JW, I would never have become one."

by OneEyedJoe in

i've seen it mentioned by a few on the forum that at some point there was a realization that had they not been born a jw, they never would've converted no matter how many times the jws tried to study with them.

this was my experience too, and i'm wondering how universal it is for those that were born-in but eventually left.

i think i started having this thought (more specifically that if i were not born a jw, i would surely have become an atheist by now) in my late teens.

Ucantnome

The reason I thought when I was a witness that if my parents had not become JW then I wouldn't is because my personality wouldn't have allowed me.

when I left home I rarely attended assemblies in their entirety the bookstudy was the first meeting I stopped attending.

so I always felt thankful they had become witnesses and I tailored it to my personality

a jacket has to fit

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"If I wasn't born a JW, I would never have become one."

by OneEyedJoe in

i've seen it mentioned by a few on the forum that at some point there was a realization that had they not been born a jw, they never would've converted no matter how many times the jws tried to study with them.

this was my experience too, and i'm wondering how universal it is for those that were born-in but eventually left.

i think i started having this thought (more specifically that if i were not born a jw, i would surely have become an atheist by now) in my late teens.

Ucantnome

I always felt glad that my parents had joined as I felt I never would have. I felt like this from my teens.

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What is truth?

by Heisenberg in

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well, i have been lurking on this site for several months and i recently decided to join as a member.

i have made several observations and would like to make a few comments.. first, i am perplexed by the attitude of many on this site that are either former or active (but apostate) jws.

they seem to have a strong hatred for the wts and also for rank and file jws.

Ucantnome

which is what our discussion is all about and not about whether the WT Bible interpretations are right and wrong in their Bible interpretations or whether it is wrong not to understand the Bible correctly and teach and apply a bible understanding later shown not to be true- and accuses the WT of sharing in this attitude, there is no proof the WT has ever shared in any of this attitude and your entire argument in our discussion is to show that the WT has been wrong in their teaching about "the end" and that is why the related article applies to WT -so you conclude.

This was my first post responding to something you said.

Ucantnome17 hours ago

But JW have done no wrong in adjusting their beliefs in light of facts and clearer understanding. The Bible is written in the form of an ironic poem crossword puzzle and there is nothing bad or wrong in not understanding it all but trying to solve. If you have ever done a crozzword puzzle you know that you have to write with a pencil.

When I have done a crossword puzzle or some other puzzle it was a bit of fun my life didn't depend on getting it right. I viewed being a JW and what we were preaching as much more important than puzzles.

This thread is What is truth?

The Good News 'includes all the truths about which Jesus spoke and his disciples wrote.' (Insight) so my comments about what has been preached are not out of place on this thread or in responding to your post.

Witnesses come to my door and tell me the same message. I believe in Christ and his teachings but differ on 1914 so according to the Watchtower I quoted, my family and I have no hope of salvation. I have shown you and you admit they have changed their teachings when time has shown them to be wrong all though they have claimed great things and you think this is morally right. I don't agree. The Good News should not be changed. That is my view.

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What is truth?

by Heisenberg in

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well, i have been lurking on this site for several months and i recently decided to join as a member.

i have made several observations and would like to make a few comments.. first, i am perplexed by the attitude of many on this site that are either former or active (but apostate) jws.

they seem to have a strong hatred for the wts and also for rank and file jws.

Ucantnome

People had faith in these things as it was presented from God's mouthpiece as part of the Good News.

Watchtower June 1 1968 page 331

On the Joyful March to Mankind’s Millennium

Arguing against a literal future millennial fule by Christ, some have claimed that such a teaching would chill the missionary ardour of Christians to make disciples of all nations. (Matt. 28:19,20) But not so! Today no people are more zealous in carrying out this missionary commission than are the Christian witnesses of Jehovah, who believe that the 1,000-year reign of Christ is literal and future. In comparatively few years these have grown to more than a million. Today they are carrying out this commission in 197 lands and islands of the sea and that in 169 languages. Last year they devoted 184 million hours to this work!

And no wonder. What good news they have to tell the people! They proclaim the good news that the millennial rule of Christ will begin with this generation and that it will mean ever so many blessings for the people :..

Faith is the assured expectation

In the Insight book under Faith on page 803 it says that the word used that is translated assured expectation is common to business documents and conveys the idea of something that underlies visible conditions and guarantees a future possession.

Like the title deed to a property.

In the book "Man's Salvation Out Of World Distress At Hand" on page 29 it says.

"After all that we have gone through since 1914, our generation would be, of all generations the "most to be pitied".Think of it, though! Worthy ones of this generation of mankind will be saved alive out of the rest of this world distress so as to survive the worst of it and enter into God's Messianic new system of things and not need a resurrection from the dead to life on earth! This is a valid hope well founded on what was said by Jesus Christ..." (Evidently not)

“most to be pitied” taken from 1 Corinthians 15 when Paul is talking of the resurrection of Christ and our faith being in vain if this has not taken place.

To me it would be like taking what Paul said about the resurrection as pencilled in in a puzzle book if I were to take your view point.