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  The 1995 Generation Change

  by sloppyjoe2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was just a teenager and have a vivid memory of sitting in a chair doing a microphone for the sunday meeting.

  everyone was commenting that it didn't mean the end was far off, and it didn't change the condition of the dead, or the 144,000, or the trinity so we should still remain faithful.

  this is my first memory as a kid being just a teen that i ever had a single doubt.

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  thanks finkelstein
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  The 1995 Generation Change

  by sloppyjoe2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was just a teenager and have a vivid memory of sitting in a chair doing a microphone for the sunday meeting.

  everyone was commenting that it didn't mean the end was far off, and it didn't change the condition of the dead, or the 144,000, or the trinity so we should still remain faithful.

  this is my first memory as a kid being just a teen that i ever had a single doubt.

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  Ucantnome

  of course from birth pioneered talks etc.

  as a witness do you think you were an apostate 'If people would really pay close attention to what Jesus said about making a set time on God's own sacred time, they would realize that the Watchtower committed an act of Apostasy or acted as false prophets.'

  
  
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  The 1995 Generation Change

  by sloppyjoe2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was just a teenager and have a vivid memory of sitting in a chair doing a microphone for the sunday meeting.

  everyone was commenting that it didn't mean the end was far off, and it didn't change the condition of the dead, or the 144,000, or the trinity so we should still remain faithful.

  this is my first memory as a kid being just a teen that i ever had a single doubt.

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  If people would really pay close attention to what Jesus said about making a set time on God's own sacred time, they would realize that the Watchtower committed an act of Apostasy or acted as false prophets.

  were you a witness?
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  The 1995 Generation Change

  by sloppyjoe2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was just a teenager and have a vivid memory of sitting in a chair doing a microphone for the sunday meeting.

  everyone was commenting that it didn't mean the end was far off, and it didn't change the condition of the dead, or the 144,000, or the trinity so we should still remain faithful.

  this is my first memory as a kid being just a teen that i ever had a single doubt.

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  Ucantnome

  Of course " This Generation " doctrine had to charge, time simply ran out.

  on Wikipedia says 'There are estimated to be 300–450 living supercentenarians[3] in the world, though only 45 verified cases are known'
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  Looking Back in Retrospect to 1995 ...

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i very much enjoyed reading through titch's thread: 'looking back in retrospect to 1975 ...' and all the comments from posters that lived through that event and remembered it.. i was born in 1979, so had nothing to offer for that thread.. however, i do remember very clearly living through 1995 (the end of the 1914 generation) and remember how it affected me and my view of the wts.

  up until oct/nov 1995, i genuinely believed the society to be god's one true earthly organisation.

  the watchtower presenting the new meaning of generation seriously shook my faith in the wts and, i suppose, started me on my journey to ttatt.

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  Ucantnome

  i'd already left but in my view it was more important than 75, the generation change
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  If you were told today you would die next week, would you be happy and fine with that?

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i don't know how so many who seem to be certain this life is it after being jw's seem to happily accept it and be fine with it.

  i am living and trying to live as if this is it.

  i want there to be a future life/afterlife, something, but i see how fast life comes and goes and even if i'm living it to the fullest, there is no peace for me with the thought this may be it.

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  there's been times i would have been happy
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  How the Watchtower Screws Up Your View of Scripture

  by CalebInFloroda in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  while i do not argue the stand of atheism (because as a jew i find it totally logical and acceptable), i have noticed that there are odd carryover preconceptions about scripture that some hold as axiomatic about the bible (at least the hebrew texts), misconceptions that have nothing to do with the jewish scriptures themselves.. so regardless of what you may think of scripture, whether you believe it is of g-d or not, i thought some of you might enjoy a reference to see how much the watchtower teaching on scripture might still be influencing the conclusions you are making today...at least about the tanakh.

  jews read their texts acknowledging the following:.

  1. no scriptural concept of original sin.

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  Ucantnome

  While I do not argue the stand of atheism (because as a Jew I find it totally logical and acceptable),

  how do you feel about anti-theism?
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  If you were told today you would die next week, would you be happy and fine with that?

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. jw
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  i don't know how so many who seem to be certain this life is it after being jw's seem to happily accept it and be fine with it.

  i am living and trying to live as if this is it.

  i want there to be a future life/afterlife, something, but i see how fast life comes and goes and even if i'm living it to the fullest, there is no peace for me with the thought this may be it.

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  I would be concerned about a few people
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  Looking Back In Retrospect To 1975...

  by titch in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  greetings, folks: so, it's been 40 years since 1975. and, if you were actively involved with the witnesses back then, the mindset of many was, that by early autumn of 1975, it would mark the anniversary of 6000 years of human existence.

  and, the hope was then, that it would mark the start of the 1000-year of christ, from the heavenly realm.

  but, looking back now, 40 years ago, in june of 1975, only 3 more months remained until early autumn.

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  thanks Fisherman,

  I found it interesting in the book regarding The Divine Plan of the Ages published by C.T.Russell in 1886. Ephesians 3:11 reading 'according to a plan of the ages' in the Emphatic Diaglott, and in the New World Translation it is eternal purpose like in the book title.

  In the book God's Kingdom of a Thousand Years Has Approached (9173) pages 206/207 it explains how Russell calculated the 6000 years of man's existence on earth to end in 1872 and by allowing two years between the creation sinning they arrived at 1874 for the end of six thousand years

  'This resulted in their calculating six thousand years of sin as ending in 1874 C.E in the autumn, the seventh millennium began, for the instigator of sin, Satan the Devil , to be bound and cast into the bottomless pit and for Christ to start reigning for the foretold thousand year period.'

  On page 209 it says in 1943 they did away with 100 years due to finding something in Judges that altered the chronology and 'This moved forward the end of six thousand years of man's existence into the decade of the 1970's.' This also did away with 1874 as the date of the return of Christ.

  So this 6000 years and the devil being cast in the bottomless pit seems to go back a long way.

  
  
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  Looking Back In Retrospect To 1975...

  by titch in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  greetings, folks: so, it's been 40 years since 1975. and, if you were actively involved with the witnesses back then, the mindset of many was, that by early autumn of 1975, it would mark the anniversary of 6000 years of human existence.

  and, the hope was then, that it would mark the start of the 1000-year of christ, from the heavenly realm.

  but, looking back now, 40 years ago, in june of 1975, only 3 more months remained until early autumn.

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  I don't think we were mad we had accepted the tribulation started in 1914 and had been cut short already I think when 1975 was introduced just waiting for the final part Armageddon