Ucantnome

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  Slightly different approach - JW my tradition

  by closed in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hello everybody :) i have been visiting this forum for some time.

  i noticed that many can't really free from the past in the org despite many years outside of jw.

  i was awaken with a bang.

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  Ucantnome

  good for you. i couldn't. but i think it is better for some. in a way.
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  General health after learning TTATT

  by Darkknight757 in

  1. social
  2. physical

  4 months ago i was conducting the watchtower study along with a long list of responsibilities that come with being an elder in a very goofy congregation.

  during this time my health was going down hill.

  i've always had a low blood pressure,(102/65 or abouts) but for the past year it had creeped up to 135/90 range.. so 2 months ago after learning ttatt, i'm still considered an elder because the brothers won't let me step down, but i haven't done anything in that time except comment once at a meeting a few weeks ago.

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  Ucantnome

  yes and no
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  If YOU had to make the decision, would you respect a JW relatives wish to refuse a blood transfusion?

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  a few years after i quit the meetings my mum needed her medical directive signed and witnessed and she asked if i'd do it.

  i was surprised to say the least!.

  i think she was just angling to include me and maybe find some lever to get me involved again.

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  Ucantnome

  cofty the best i can do to further answer you is this.

  There were two brothers. One was an alcoholic the other wasn't. The one who wasn't spoke several times to the one who was but to no avail. The one who was alcoholic said he wanted to drink he enjoyed it and if it shortened his life that's ok with him. When he died at a young age. The other brother felt it was his choice and he was awear of the consequences there wasn't anything else he could have done In a similar way i think i would consider the kool aid drinker. Whilst obeying the law.
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  If YOU had to make the decision, would you respect a JW relatives wish to refuse a blood transfusion?

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  a few years after i quit the meetings my mum needed her medical directive signed and witnessed and she asked if i'd do it.

  i was surprised to say the least!.

  i think she was just angling to include me and maybe find some lever to get me involved again.

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  Ucantnome

  ucant its interesting that three times now you have avoided wrestling with the moral question and taken refuge in law.
  Religious people tend to do that a lot.

  I think you cannot know me, how I think is not the same as you

  I'm saying that I cannot imagine the situation without the law as I cannot just get rid of something I know.

  I don't feel I'm taking refuge in anything although I feel you mention religion and cast it in a negative light I haven't brought it up, 'tend to do that' is just your opinion. Why do you feel the need to do that cofty?
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  If YOU had to make the decision, would you respect a JW relatives wish to refuse a blood transfusion?

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  a few years after i quit the meetings my mum needed her medical directive signed and witnessed and she asked if i'd do it.

  i was surprised to say the least!.

  i think she was just angling to include me and maybe find some lever to get me involved again.

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  Ucantnome

  Difficult to say

  I think I would be obliged by law to react to the suicide and as I cannot imagine the situation without that I can't give a clear answer.
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  If YOU had to make the decision, would you respect a JW relatives wish to refuse a blood transfusion?

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  a few years after i quit the meetings my mum needed her medical directive signed and witnessed and she asked if i'd do it.

  i was surprised to say the least!.

  i think she was just angling to include me and maybe find some lever to get me involved again.

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  Ucantnome

  I suppose I like freedom of choice.
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  If YOU had to make the decision, would you respect a JW relatives wish to refuse a blood transfusion?

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  a few years after i quit the meetings my mum needed her medical directive signed and witnessed and she asked if i'd do it.

  i was surprised to say the least!.

  i think she was just angling to include me and maybe find some lever to get me involved again.

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  Ucantnome

  so you feel age makes a difference and you would go against someone's wishes if you felt it might save their life and that is ethically right
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  If YOU had to make the decision, would you respect a JW relatives wish to refuse a blood transfusion?

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  a few years after i quit the meetings my mum needed her medical directive signed and witnessed and she asked if i'd do it.

  i was surprised to say the least!.

  i think she was just angling to include me and maybe find some lever to get me involved again.

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  Ucantnome

  Cofty do you feel I have no right to make a choice then?

  Ucant if you don't want to deal with the question just say so.

  Cofty its not that I don't want to deal with it I am doing my best to answer it.

  
  
  
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  If YOU had to make the decision, would you respect a JW relatives wish to refuse a blood transfusion?

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  a few years after i quit the meetings my mum needed her medical directive signed and witnessed and she asked if i'd do it.

  i was surprised to say the least!.

  i think she was just angling to include me and maybe find some lever to get me involved again.

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  Ucantnome

  With mental capacity he decided he did not want to go to hospital he would want me to support his choice that he had a right to make.

  Supporting a choice on medical procedure as opposed to assisting suicide in my view is different.

  I think it is viewed differently in the eyes of the law. I feel I have a choice. There is no guarantee the medical procedure will save the persons life. Like my mother, not having the chemo didn't result in her death. I would not have forced my opinion on to her if she could not make her own decision. I'm not taking life.

  It seems as if you are trying to force your opinions on to me.
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  If YOU had to make the decision, would you respect a JW relatives wish to refuse a blood transfusion?

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  a few years after i quit the meetings my mum needed her medical directive signed and witnessed and she asked if i'd do it.

  i was surprised to say the least!.

  i think she was just angling to include me and maybe find some lever to get me involved again.

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  Ucantnome

  My father wasn't terminally ill