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  Why Faith is Self-Defeating

  by cofty in

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  the god of christian theism values faith.. "without faith it is impossible to please god, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists" - heb.11.

  faith and evidence are inversely proportional - the more evidence there is that god exists the less faith you need in that proposition and vice-versa.. so how can a christian criticise any other faith-based belief?

  for example they can protest that all the evidence is against the claims of scientology, but that just means that scientologists require more faith than christians.

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  Faith is about believing without seeing

  sounds like trust

  I have to admit i prefer the JW over atheists.
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  This thread is for proof that God exists

  by juandefiero in

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  however, i haven't found any evidence to support that belief.. have you?

  if so please, show me the evidence that god exists, and i will believe along with you.. criteria:.

  (1) you must specify which god you are talking about;.

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  So please. Here is your opportunity to convince an atheist he is wrong.

  i couldn't be bothered. Find your own evidence.
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  R.I.P Keith Emerson

  by BluesBrother in

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  keith emerson , the virtuoso keyboard player of elp has sadly passed.

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  another good one gone.

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  i think i liked Pirates best
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  Did any of us ever enjoy meetings?

  by stephanie61092 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  this is a legitimate question.

  did any of us ever find real joy in being at the meetings?

  did any of us ever finish a meeting and think "i feel so enriched"?

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  i enjoyed won meeting in 1979. I took a workmate to the Thursday meeting.
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  Why Faith is Self-Defeating

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the god of christian theism values faith.. "without faith it is impossible to please god, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists" - heb.11.

  faith and evidence are inversely proportional - the more evidence there is that god exists the less faith you need in that proposition and vice-versa.. so how can a christian criticise any other faith-based belief?

  for example they can protest that all the evidence is against the claims of scientology, but that just means that scientologists require more faith than christians.

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  i thought faith was to do with trust
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  lf you could ask god questions what would they be?

  by atomant in

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  thought it might be an interesting exercise to read the variety of questions people might ask.

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  Ucantnome

  probably what do you think of me. then say don't answer.
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  What would we all do if the watchtower collapsed tomorrow ?

  by stan livedeath in

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  i would probably collapse laughing.

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  i'd be a bit disappointed.
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  How many of you are health nuts?

  by Harvard Illiterate 411 in

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  there was/is a sister in my old hall who was a pharmaceutical sales rep and she was a huge proponent of anything in the drug industry.

  when someone had a headache, she was the first to say "take an asprin.

  " now my husband and i are what you might call old hippies.

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  I eat a lot of chocolate and drink whiskey it keeps me happy. I try and eat a cabbage or two a week to have some healthy food.
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  Did any of us ever enjoy meetings?

  by stephanie61092 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  this is a legitimate question.

  did any of us ever find real joy in being at the meetings?

  did any of us ever finish a meeting and think "i feel so enriched"?

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  Many years ago my father enjoyed a meeting
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  THE LINGERING SHADOW OF '75

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  none of you are old enough to have been there, i suspect.

  i had been in prison two years as a jw conscientious objector when the exciting news about 1975 spread like wildfire.i was paroled from prison in 1969 and immediately began pioneering.

  the pressures began mounting throughout the organization.

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  Ucantnome

  In an earlier post on this thread I mentioned.

  
  

  "When my parents studied and baptised the elder who studied with them said (according to my brother) that it was impossible for him to die of old age. This was due to faith, faith in the good news I believe."

  
  

  I think that these two quotes from the Watchtower may show why he felt it was impossible for him to die of old age.
  

  Watchtower July 15th 1961 page 423

  
  ‘And since faith is also “the assured expectation of things hoped for,” it follows that we must also have knowledge of what are the things we may and should hope for. Again, God’s Word provides us with the needed knowledge. It assures us that paradisiac conditions will be restored to this earth, and that on a world-wide scale, and that this restoration work can be expected to begin within the present generation.’

  
  Watchtower September 1st 1969 page 532.

  
  'Jehovah has made many promises of things yet to occur, One may hope that such things will come to pass, but such expression may only be a whimsical wish, not real faith. Faith is more than just an expectation. It is expectation that is assured to such a degree that it is able to support , uphold and guarantee that what is hoped for will become a reality. This is the meaning of hypostasis, a word common in ancient papyrus business documents in reference to guarantees placed on the transactions.
  ...Substantially the words [hy.po’sta.sis and e’leg.khos] mean that faith gives to things future, which as yet are only hoped for, all the reality of actual present existence,; and irresistibly convinces us of the reality of things unseen and brings us into their presence.” The Expositor’s Greek Testament, Vol.IV page 352.

  
  

  That's why when 1975 came and went I still believed the end was close and stayed a JW and wasn't 'heartbroken, shaken, upset and finally depressed.' However I do feel it had some effect for years after