Posts by Ucantnome

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Another generation....

by joey jojo in

it has been 21 years since the 1995 article that pretty much buried the idea of the '1914 generation'.. remember those guys?

the ones born in 1914 that would still be alive when the end of the system arrived.. i'm glad i'm old enough to remember going from door to door, preaching this belief.

the reason i say that is because i have a lot of 'still in' jw friends and family.

Ucantnome

1 Corinthians 15:18,19

In fact, also, those who fell asleep [in death] in union with Christ perished,. If in this life only we have hoped in Christ we are of all men most to be pitied. (NWT)

Commenting on this scripture in the book Man's Salvation Out of World Distress At Hand(1975 Watchtower), I believe we studied this book after 1975 probably 1976, it says on page 28.

So much depended upon Messiah's resurrection, and the apostle Paul had suffered so much persecution for preaching it, that if Paul were a liar, then, as he wrote...

So, too, with our generation in this twentieth century. After all that we have gone through since 1914, our generation would be, of all generations, the "most to be pitied".
Think of it, though! Worthy ones of this generation of mankind will be saved alive out of the rest of this world distress so as to survive the worst of it and enter into God's Messianic new system of things and not need a resurrection from the dead to life on earth! This is a valid hope well founded on what was said by Jesus Christ..."

It seems to link what Paul preached regarding the resurrection of Christ with the generation teaching.

The book's opening chapter and paragraph it asks the question

How much more will the present generation of mankind have to take of this world distress that has plagued us since 1914 C.E.?

and then says regarding the length of the generation

Fewer of us have attained to eighty years of age or more. In times such as these, such an age attainment is very good, according to the age-old saying tht set a reasonable time-length for a generation:
"The days of our years in this life are seventy years; and if by uncommon vigour they be eighty, yet is their greatness trouble and mishap; for it soon hasteneth off, and we fly away," *
During those seven or eight decades of our lives, oh, what we have experienced! For good reason, then, the announcement "Man's salvation out of world distress at hand! is good news indeed.

*written by Moses son of Amram, in Psalm 90:10, Leeser.

The apostle Paul preached good news concerning the resurrection of Christ. This good news about the generation that my mother heard hasn't proved to be good news.

After the disappointment of 1975 then the disappointment of the generation.

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Another generation....

by joey jojo in

it has been 21 years since the 1995 article that pretty much buried the idea of the '1914 generation'.. remember those guys?

the ones born in 1914 that would still be alive when the end of the system arrived.. i'm glad i'm old enough to remember going from door to door, preaching this belief.

the reason i say that is because i have a lot of 'still in' jw friends and family.

Ucantnome

Fisherman the anointed 'gods mouthpiece' preached as good news that millions would never die they gave people a false hope that they would not die of old age. How unkind.

the couple who studied with my parents would say it is impossible for them to die of old age. They got the 'truth' in the 20's and my mother many times said how happy she was with the hope she had as a witness never growing old in this system. Now her husband is dead of old age and she sits in care home. Why would she trust anything else the witnesses preached?

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“Even if this wasn’t the Truth, I need the structure.”

by Londo111 in

i remember many years back a fellow ministerial servant saying this to me.

he felt that even if jehovah’s witnesses were not the only true religion, the regimented routine of meetings and field service and the strict rules and enforcement provided a beneficial structure for his life.

at the time i thought if this wasn’t “the truth”, i’d have no need for all that “structure”.

Ucantnome

if Jehovah’s Witnesses were not the only true religion, the regimented routine of meetings and field service and the strict rules and enforcement provided a beneficial structure for his life.

i would feel that if I had this belief I was already an atheist.

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Were you beaten as a child?

by purrpurr in

i've been confronting my mother with her dubious parenting skills (abuse) of me as a child.

particularly the beatings i would get with the wooden spoon.

not a light smack but hitting me as hard as she could for as long as she could.

Ucantnome

I dont remember being beaten he kicked me out the door once for telling the truth

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What was your first public bible reading? And when?

by Mandrake in

i perfectly remember that, rehearsing with mom, trying to read with enough emphasis and in a proper tone.

i was 5 years old, back then in 1996 i think, and the portion was james 5:1-13.... i found today that i still know the first verses by heart!!!

it's actually a cherished memory for me, i came to memorize those because mom had me starting the reading all over again until i got to read it properly... and in time!!!

Ucantnome

I think when I joined it wasn't just reading it was a talk. 1966. I vaguely remember. Always hated the school and was part of it intermittently over the following 30 years. For the first 20 years I always got a g then I started getting wig then last few talks w and the last talk I wrote for my wife the elder had to explain afterward that we don't earn our salvation its a gift. Another w.

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Another generation....

by joey jojo in

it has been 21 years since the 1995 article that pretty much buried the idea of the '1914 generation'.. remember those guys?

the ones born in 1914 that would still be alive when the end of the system arrived.. i'm glad i'm old enough to remember going from door to door, preaching this belief.

the reason i say that is because i have a lot of 'still in' jw friends and family.

Ucantnome

i glanced the article and if it is the right one i dont think it is worth more of my time.

was it the May 2016 article to whom the work is entrusted?

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Another generation....

by joey jojo in

it has been 21 years since the 1995 article that pretty much buried the idea of the '1914 generation'.. remember those guys?

the ones born in 1914 that would still be alive when the end of the system arrived.. i'm glad i'm old enough to remember going from door to door, preaching this belief.

the reason i say that is because i have a lot of 'still in' jw friends and family.

Ucantnome

thanks Fisherman

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Another generation....

by joey jojo in

it has been 21 years since the 1995 article that pretty much buried the idea of the '1914 generation'.. remember those guys?

the ones born in 1914 that would still be alive when the end of the system arrived.. i'm glad i'm old enough to remember going from door to door, preaching this belief.

the reason i say that is because i have a lot of 'still in' jw friends and family.

Ucantnome

As supported by the last big WT study article citing 3 lines of evidence, etc.

Fisherman, which Watchtower was that?

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Did you participate in a Drama?

by Hecce in

i am bringing this up because even it was a lot of work, for the majority of the friends this was a rewarding experience.

camaraderie, joking, costumes, props and when the time came the celebrity status of being in the drama.. back in the 50s and 60s, conventions could be as long as 8 days and from about 1966 the dramas became an integral part of the program.

we had one per day and the brothers looked forward to their presentation.

Ucantnome

i don't really remember any of the dramas. I remember in LA it was really hot and they asked people to take down the umbrellas. I didn't stay for the drama, I was still an active witness and wouldn't leave for another 15 years. I had a friend who was in one of the dramas, they left the witnesses a few years later. When I was a kid we were in demonstrations at the assembly and my brother gave a talk.

i was mentions in a public talk once as a good example but the brother had it wrong

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Armageddon comes and you have 5 minutes with Jesus

by pleaseresearch in

so the big a comes, your third in line to be judged by jesus.

he wants to know why you left the organisation.

he also wants to know why jws remained with the org.

Ucantnome

he already knows