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  Another generation....

  by joey jojo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it has been 21 years since the 1995 article that pretty much buried the idea of the '1914 generation'.. remember those guys?

  the ones born in 1914 that would still be alive when the end of the system arrived.. i'm glad i'm old enough to remember going from door to door, preaching this belief.

  the reason i say that is because i have a lot of 'still in' jw friends and family.

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  Ucantnome

  they seemed to have tied the generation to this scripture

  Corinthians 15

  In fact, also, those who fell asleep [in death] in union with Christ perished,. If in this life only we have hoped in Christ we are of all men most to be pitied. (NWT)

  Commenting on this scripture in the book Man's Salvation Out of World Distress At Hand(1975 Watchtower), I believe we studied this book after 1975 probably 1976, it says on page 28.

  So much depended upon Messiah's resurrection, and the apostle Paul had suffered so much persecution for preaching it, that if Paul were a liar, then, as he wrote...

  
  

  
  So, too, with our generation in this twentieth century. After all that we have gone through since 1914, our generation would be, of all generations, the "most to be pitied".
  Think of it, though! Worthy ones of this generation of mankind will be saved alive out of the rest of this world distress so as to survive the worst of it and enter into God's Messianic new system of things and not need a resurrection from the dead to life on earth! This is a valid hope well founded on what was said by Jesus Christ..."
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  Another generation....

  by joey jojo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it has been 21 years since the 1995 article that pretty much buried the idea of the '1914 generation'.. remember those guys?

  the ones born in 1914 that would still be alive when the end of the system arrived.. i'm glad i'm old enough to remember going from door to door, preaching this belief.

  the reason i say that is because i have a lot of 'still in' jw friends and family.

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  Ucantnome

  maybe these two from "The Nations shall Know That I Am Jehovah"-How?" (WT 1971) pages 58,59,6.

  Who, then are the group of persons who, toward the beginning of this "time of the end, " were commissioned to serve as the mouthpiece and active agent of Jehovah?
  Whom could the real "chariot "of Jehovah's organization roll up to and confront that He might bestow upon this qualified one the commission to speak as a prophet in the name of Jehovah?
  Who are they?
  

  i find that I think about what Paul said,

  
  13 But if there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised; 14 and if Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is vain [useless, amounting to nothing], and your faith is also vain [imaginary, unfounded, devoid of value and benefit—not based on truth]. 15 We are even discovered to be false witnesses [misrepresenting] God, because we testified concerning Him that He raised Christ, whom He did not raise, if in fact the dead are not raised.
  

  (1 Corinthians 15Amplified Bible (AMP))www.biblegateway.com
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  Another generation....

  by joey jojo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it has been 21 years since the 1995 article that pretty much buried the idea of the '1914 generation'.. remember those guys?

  the ones born in 1914 that would still be alive when the end of the system arrived.. i'm glad i'm old enough to remember going from door to door, preaching this belief.

  the reason i say that is because i have a lot of 'still in' jw friends and family.

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  Ucantnome

  I think these two quotes are interesting

  Watchtower September 1st 1969 page 532.

  
  'Jehovah has made many promises of things yet to occur, One may hope that such things will come to pass, but such expression may only be a whimsical wish, not real faith. Faith is more than just an expectation. It is expectation that is assured to such a degree that it is able to support , uphold and guarantee that what is hoped for will become a reality. This is the meaning of hypostasis, a word common in ancient papyrus business documents in reference to guarantees placed on the transactions.
  ...Substantially the words [hy.po’sta.sis and e’leg.khos] mean that faith gives to things future, which as yet are only hoped for, all the reality of actual present existence,; and irresistibly convinces us of the reality of things unseen and brings us into their presence.” The Expositor’s Greek Testament, Vol.IV page 352.

  
  

  Watchtower July 15th 1961 page 423

  
  ‘And since faith is also “the assured expectation of things hoped for,” it follows that we must also have knowledge of what are the things we may and should hope for. Again, God’s Word provides us with the needed knowledge. It assures us that paradisiac conditions will be restored to this earth, and that on a world-wide scale, and that this restoration work can be expected to begin within the present generation.’

  
  

  
  But without faith it is impossible to [walk with God and] please Him, for whoever comes [near] to God must [necessarily] believe that God exists and that He rewards those who [earnestly and diligently] seek Him. Hebrews 11:6 (AMP www.biblegateway.com)
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  Flying Scotsman Visits My Town

  by cofty in

  1. social
  2. current

  the iconic steam engine the flying scotsman has been restored and is back on tour along the east coast main line between london and edinburgh.

  this evening it crossed the royal border bridge in berwick-on-tweed for the first time since it was put out of service in january 1963.. here are few shots.. .

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  Ucantnome

  I saw it once some years ago. My father must have taken a picture. About 1970
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  Now finally Caleb & Sofia Anti-Gay Video going viral in Germany too

  by Daniel1555 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  today spiegel online & bento have an article about the anti-gay video.. spiegel is one of the biggest and most serious news media in germany.. they also report and show that youtubers cut the video and changed it in a funny way.

  sofia tells her mother that the teacher said it's fine if they live each other.

  then sofia's mother says: "thats wonderful.".

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  Ucantnome

  Good idea smiddy
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  Now finally Caleb & Sofia Anti-Gay Video going viral in Germany too

  by Daniel1555 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  today spiegel online & bento have an article about the anti-gay video.. spiegel is one of the biggest and most serious news media in germany.. they also report and show that youtubers cut the video and changed it in a funny way.

  sofia tells her mother that the teacher said it's fine if they live each other.

  then sofia's mother says: "thats wonderful.".

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  Ucantnome

  Doubtfully Yours are you an active witness?
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  Why education is a killer for doomsday cults.

  by Half banana in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if you were to read the watchtower literature and you believed it to be the exclusive divinely inspired interpretation of the bible, i suggest that you would not be learning anything useful, instead you would simply be absorbing the indoctrination of the jw org..

  what is the difference between indoctrination and education?.

  take any passage from the watchtower this sentence for example which assumes significance in the end of six thousand years of human history in 1975: “how then does this fit in with god’s timetable?”.

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  Ucantnome

  They have a couple of degrees and have travelled quite a lot and teach.
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  Another generation....

  by joey jojo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it has been 21 years since the 1995 article that pretty much buried the idea of the '1914 generation'.. remember those guys?

  the ones born in 1914 that would still be alive when the end of the system arrived.. i'm glad i'm old enough to remember going from door to door, preaching this belief.

  the reason i say that is because i have a lot of 'still in' jw friends and family.

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  Ucantnome

  i read the worlds oldest person died.
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  Why education is a killer for doomsday cults.

  by Half banana in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if you were to read the watchtower literature and you believed it to be the exclusive divinely inspired interpretation of the bible, i suggest that you would not be learning anything useful, instead you would simply be absorbing the indoctrination of the jw org..

  what is the difference between indoctrination and education?.

  take any passage from the watchtower this sentence for example which assumes significance in the end of six thousand years of human history in 1975: “how then does this fit in with god’s timetable?”.

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  Ucantnome

  A Witness I work with has a very good education and was obtained while a Witness.
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  The two paths of exJWs

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it's easy to think of exjws as being a single amorphous group but the more i think about it, the more i believe that there are two distinct sub-groups and wonder if you agree.. there are those who believe and those who don't.

  i know that seems obvious but let's break it down a bit more.

  there are those who don't and never believed and some who are looking for a religion to match their beliefs.. i used to think this split would be between born-ins and converts but of course it's possible for born-ins to be believers although i suspect that many, like with other faiths, do so simply because they have never experienced anything else or made a conscious choice.

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  'If I had gotten together with my teen 'crush', who knows?' (talesin)

  A friend said to me a few years ago that if we had married she would not have let me leave the Witnesses. I have to wonder if she would have been right.

  I also feel that my wife would not have left if I hadn't.

  When I left the witnesses the situation in my life was probably the best it would ever have been for leaving and the one thing that would make me leave came up.