It seems to me fisherman you are saying that as witnesses in this court it doesn't matter what they say, if its true or not its who is backing them that is important
sort of if you don't like it take it up with my big brother
it has been 21 years since the 1995 article that pretty much buried the idea of the '1914 generation'.. remember those guys?
the ones born in 1914 that would still be alive when the end of the system arrived.. i'm glad i'm old enough to remember going from door to door, preaching this belief.
the reason i say that is because i have a lot of 'still in' jw friends and family.
It seems to me fisherman you are saying that as witnesses in this court it doesn't matter what they say, if its true or not its who is backing them that is important
sort of if you don't like it take it up with my big brother
it has been 21 years since the 1995 article that pretty much buried the idea of the '1914 generation'.. remember those guys?
the ones born in 1914 that would still be alive when the end of the system arrived.. i'm glad i'm old enough to remember going from door to door, preaching this belief.
the reason i say that is because i have a lot of 'still in' jw friends and family.
prologos, no doubt your deep
lol, no im not deep.
I need to stop posting this sort of post. I feel more anxious later which isn't good. I would be better not to post anything
maybe it's time for a less serious thread .
i have just finished watching dirty dancing ( again ) .
what is your feel good movie , the one that makes you smile and cry happy tears ?
finish school.. finish my apprenticeship (why are you doing that brother karter you will never finish it in this system).. buy a house.. pay the house off.. karter..
it has been 21 years since the 1995 article that pretty much buried the idea of the '1914 generation'.. remember those guys?
the ones born in 1914 that would still be alive when the end of the system arrived.. i'm glad i'm old enough to remember going from door to door, preaching this belief.
the reason i say that is because i have a lot of 'still in' jw friends and family.
it has been 21 years since the 1995 article that pretty much buried the idea of the '1914 generation'.. remember those guys?
the ones born in 1914 that would still be alive when the end of the system arrived.. i'm glad i'm old enough to remember going from door to door, preaching this belief.
the reason i say that is because i have a lot of 'still in' jw friends and family.
As it I feel I would have to view what the apostle Paul said in the same light, but then we would be back to not claiming inspiration.
In the first century the good news preached about Christ by the apostles after the out pouring of Holy spirit as is spoken of in Acts 2 and i believe 1 Corinthians was written after this.The way that I understand it is that this scripture in Acts 2:17 where it talks of the pouring out God's spirit and they'will prophesy' which verse 16 shows to be quoting from the book of Joel is fulfilled in the remnant of anointed Christians from 1919 and the good news in Matthew 24 of which the Witnesses preach was realised in 1920.
it has been 21 years since the 1995 article that pretty much buried the idea of the '1914 generation'.. remember those guys?
the ones born in 1914 that would still be alive when the end of the system arrived.. i'm glad i'm old enough to remember going from door to door, preaching this belief.
the reason i say that is because i have a lot of 'still in' jw friends and family.
no I can't, but i will not comment any more on this thread prologos or any other after the next post.
This is about the generation teaching
it has been 21 years since the 1995 article that pretty much buried the idea of the '1914 generation'.. remember those guys?
the ones born in 1914 that would still be alive when the end of the system arrived.. i'm glad i'm old enough to remember going from door to door, preaching this belief.
the reason i say that is because i have a lot of 'still in' jw friends and family.
Jw are witnesses are they not?
What I meant from my previous post where I posted this comment is. That the name Jehovah's Witnesses is based on Isaiah 43:12 and in the book Jehovah's Witnesses Proclaimers of God's Kingdom it tells how in the 1920's the Bible Students became 'increasingly aware of the deep significance' of this scripture and the 'responsibility to bear witness to Jehovah's name and his Kingdom' (page 79)
In the book "All Scripture Is Inspired Of God and Beneficial" it says regarding this passage in Isaiah
'With court in session, he orders the nations to produce witnesses to clear their gods'
I understand it to be, from this like a court room setting.
In the book The Oxford Companion To The Bible (Oxford University Press 1993) page 806
In the New Testament the witness theme is central in the gospel of John, Acts and Revelation. In John's gospel, God in Christ has a controversy with the world. A cosmic lawsuit is underway, and each side presents its evidence and argues its case.
So it seems to me that when in 1922 this was said
The speaker, J. F. Rutherford, then president of the Watch Tower Bible & Tract Society, quoted to the assembled thousands Isaiah 43:8-12 (AV) and then proceeded to say:
Thus we see that those of the temple class are clearly designated as the Lord's witnesses at this time, to bring a message of consolation to the people, that the kingdom of heaven is here, and that millions now living will never die.
and this was excerpt taken from the Babylon book in 1963 mentioned in a previous post of mine under the heading of the Good News and a Judgement Message and ties I believe to the generation teaching that was changed. It was preached/ witnessed about in a courtroom setting and cannot easily be dismissed.
The apostle Paul stated in Corinthians 15
'But if Christ has not been raised up, our preaching is certainly in vain, and your faith is also in vain. 15 Moreover, we are also found to be false witnesses of God, because we have given witness against God by saying that he raised up the Christ, whom he did not raise up if the dead are really not to be raised up. (NWT 2013)'
As they quoted from 1 Corinthians 15 in regard to the generation teaching mentioned in my previous post.
Man's Salvation Out of World Distress At Hand(1975 Watchtower), I believe we studied this book after 1975 probably 1976, it says on page 28.
So much depended upon Messiah's resurrection, and the apostle Paul had suffered so much persecution for preaching it, that if Paul were a liar, then, as he wrote...
So, too, with our generation in this twentieth century. After all that we have gone through since 1914, our generation would be, of all generations, the "most to be pitied".
Think of it, though! Worthy ones of this generation of mankind will be saved alive out of the rest of this world distress so as to survive the worst of it and enter into God's Messianic new system of things and not need a resurrection from the dead to life on earth! This is a valid hope well founded on what was said by Jesus Christ..."
and witnessing/preaching is in a courtroom setting hence the truth, witnesses/ the 'mouthpiece and active agent of Jehovah' I find it difficult to see how
'And what I mean by convinced does not mean that wt theology is error free or understanding exactly the truth -but that God's Holy Spirit trumps. Fisherman'
and this
'My post was not intended to enlighten you. One does not become enlightened from others, one can learn from others though. But proof, evidence than can be verified, comes from God. That evidence that I refer to is God's Holy Spirit that trumps. If you do not see it, I cannot show it you because it is God that enlightens a person.'
As it I feel I would have to view what the apostle Paul said in the same light, but then we would be back to not claiming inspiration.
it has been 21 years since the 1995 article that pretty much buried the idea of the '1914 generation'.. remember those guys?
the ones born in 1914 that would still be alive when the end of the system arrived.. i'm glad i'm old enough to remember going from door to door, preaching this belief.
the reason i say that is because i have a lot of 'still in' jw friends and family.
Jw are witnesses are they not?
fisherman you gave me the information that I wanted. I think enlighten can mean that but maybe I'm wrong.
it has been 21 years since the 1995 article that pretty much buried the idea of the '1914 generation'.. remember those guys?
the ones born in 1914 that would still be alive when the end of the system arrived.. i'm glad i'm old enough to remember going from door to door, preaching this belief.
the reason i say that is because i have a lot of 'still in' jw friends and family.