Many of them can’t tell the difference between God and the GB
when i was an active JW my father said to me as an active JW himself before the end you will have to decide. At the time I felt a certain amount of fear, how could I decide.
Ucantnome
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Why Are You Here?
by Believer ini'm wondering why believers remain members of this forum which is clearly hostile to believers.
as one member said, nonbelievers pounce on any semblance of belief like piranhas on prey.
as former jws we should have had our fill of judgmental know-it-alls, but here we are.
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Why Are You Here?
by Believer ini'm wondering why believers remain members of this forum which is clearly hostile to believers.
as one member said, nonbelievers pounce on any semblance of belief like piranhas on prey.
as former jws we should have had our fill of judgmental know-it-alls, but here we are.
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Ucantnome
It is probably founded on mundane things, such as believing ones salvation depends on obeying a body of men or their interpretations and reinterpretations of prophecy.
I think that my parents accepted the 'truth' on the basis that 1914 ended the gentile times and that Christ invisible 2nd presence had begun. They accepted this on the evidence that the JW who called on them supplied. I don't think that my father believed his salvation depended on obeying a body of men. He believed they that there was a group of people who were chosen to be a faithful and discreet slave class and give out spiritual food at the proper time in line with the acceptance of the beliefs surrounding 1914 as fulfilment of Matthew 24:14.
I think if we can distinguish the different between believing in God and believing in religion
I think we can but not i'm not sure of it's value
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Why Are You Here?
by Believer ini'm wondering why believers remain members of this forum which is clearly hostile to believers.
as one member said, nonbelievers pounce on any semblance of belief like piranhas on prey.
as former jws we should have had our fill of judgmental know-it-alls, but here we are.
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Ucantnome
blind faith
belief without true understanding, perception, or discrimination (http://www.dictionary.com/browse/blind-faith)
Believer I don't think my father accepted the 'truth' without true understanding. When he accepted it he accepted it skeptically at first, but he was as sure as he could be that it was correct with the true understanding of the good news regarding 1914. I think that suggesting that it was blind faith gives the impression that people like him gave little thought to it.
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Why Are You Here?
by Believer ini'm wondering why believers remain members of this forum which is clearly hostile to believers.
as one member said, nonbelievers pounce on any semblance of belief like piranhas on prey.
as former jws we should have had our fill of judgmental know-it-alls, but here we are.
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Ucantnome
But in time, they are required to turn that into blind faith, i.e., “following their directions whether they are sound from a human standpoint or not.
do you think this has always been the case or just recently?
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Why Are You Here?
by Believer ini'm wondering why believers remain members of this forum which is clearly hostile to believers.
as one member said, nonbelievers pounce on any semblance of belief like piranhas on prey.
as former jws we should have had our fill of judgmental know-it-alls, but here we are.
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Ucantnome
At first I wondered what that meant but watching the progression of many exJWs evolve or devolve from blind faith to no faith seems to be the answer. Of course there are many who evolved from blind faith to true faith but those believers are relatively quiet here.
believer if i understand it correctly you are saying that being a JW is blind faith?
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Why Are You Here?
by Believer ini'm wondering why believers remain members of this forum which is clearly hostile to believers.
as one member said, nonbelievers pounce on any semblance of belief like piranhas on prey.
as former jws we should have had our fill of judgmental know-it-alls, but here we are.
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Ucantnome
believer do you think it was from blind faith?
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String Theory Co-Founder: Sub-Atomic Particles Are Evidence the Universe Was Created
by Tenacious in(cnsnews.com) -- dr. michio kaku [1], a theoretical physicist [2] at the city college of new york (cuny) and co-founder of string field theory [3], says theoretical particles known as “primitive semi-radius tachyons” are physical evidence that the universe was created by a higher intelligence.. after analyzing the behavior of these sub-atomic particles - which can move faster than the speed of light and have the ability to “unstick” space and matter – using technology created in 2005, kaku concluded [4] that the universe is a “matrix” governed by laws and principles that could only have been designed by an intelligent being.. “i have concluded that we are in a world made by rules created by an intelligence.
believe me, everything that we call chance today won’t make sense anymore,” kaku said, according [5] to an article published in the geophilosophical association of anthropological and cultural studies.. “to me it is clear that we exist in a plan which is governed by rules that were created, shaped by a universal intelligence and not by chance.”.
“the final solution resolution could be that god is a mathematician,” kaku, author of the future of the mind: the scientific quest to understand, enhance, and empower the mind [6], said in a 2013 big think video [7]posted on youtube.. “the mind of god, we believe, is cosmic music, the music of strings resonating through 11-dimensional hyperspace.”.
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Ucantnome
David_jay did you ever see anything or have contact physically?
i wonder if string theory is on the same level as the theory of evolution?
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"how awful it must be to be dying as an apostate!"
by purrpurr ini heard today about a former jw/now apostate who is dying in hospital.
this information was accompanied by the comment of "wouldn't be awful to be lying there in hospital,dying as an apostate!
knowing that you have no hope!?
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Ucantnome
"wouldn't be awful to be lying there in hospital,dying as an apostate! Knowing that you have no hope!?
when i was a witness i would have felt the same. i remember when a close relative was disfellowshiped how awful i felt as i thought we were so close to the end..
i was recently discussing my view of being saved and certitude and probability with a member of my family. i seem to be more certain than when i was a witness but i was certin that JW were rite.
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Why Are You Here?
by Believer ini'm wondering why believers remain members of this forum which is clearly hostile to believers.
as one member said, nonbelievers pounce on any semblance of belief like piranhas on prey.
as former jws we should have had our fill of judgmental know-it-alls, but here we are.
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Ucantnome
it helped me sort out a few things. Like 1975.
in some way it helps me think i think.
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Introduction - Any Believers?
by Believer ini’ve been reading it for a few of years off and on, but have been a little too ... maybe ... timid to join.
i left the watchtower organization almost 20 years ago but never abandoned my faith and belief in god.
i knew the gb/organization didn’t represent god, so when i lost my faith in them, i managed to keep my faith in an all wise benevolent creator.
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Ucantnome
how have I managed to keep my faith? I suppose nothing changed as to the reasons I had my faith it was just that the reason I was going door to door preaching was no longer clear and so i stopped.
why i choose to believe is for a variety of reasons probably the primary reason is experiences good and bad.